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Graham Phillips
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Post Number: 389
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Posted on Wednesday, 14 April, 2021 - 23:41:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

G'day everyone,....

Well as 'Working on Camilla' thread is now over 200 posts I'll start this thread so you on't have to scroll down so far, so continuing on,...

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Well today I finished Camilla's polish.

I spent some time on her bright work,...

It could be argued I may have spent a little longer than required when it came to cleaning the lady at the front,.... ;)

But this afternoon I removed the bump strips to clean them just in the boot.









I use cream cleanser and it brings it up nice and shiny,....

I also cleaned inside the fuel lid and where thee fuel cap is,... had a layer or to of shmutz built up over the years in there, now you can see the paint!


Graham.
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David Gore
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Posted on Thursday, 15 April, 2021 - 10:42:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Graham,

I always enjoyed doing similar maintenance on DRH14434 and then standing back and admiring the results.

As you have found, you have to experience this feeling to know what real pride can be!
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Graham Phillips
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Post Number: 390
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Posted on Thursday, 15 April, 2021 - 15:07:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

G'day everyone,....


David, this is the way I was taught to do things, and your right, there is a element of pride and joy when you step back to see the change it makes.

Its funny but its the little things/ details that seem to make the big difference.


Graham.
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AdrianJ
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Posted on Thursday, 15 April, 2021 - 16:06:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

I notice you have a cover cap on the spare wheel carrier lowering rod nut. I guess someone has added that as I have never seen one.
My 'bump strips' I flatted with 2000 grit wet/dry on a piece of wood and machine polished with Farecla G3. Came up like glass :-)

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Graham Phillips
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Posted on Thursday, 15 April, 2021 - 20:39:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

G'day everyone,....


I take it the boot seal is stuck down with silicone or some type of glue?

I am looking at replacing mine soon, I have the replacement already,.... just need to fit it when I get time.




Graham.
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Larry Kavanagh
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Posted on Thursday, 15 April, 2021 - 21:05:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

The boot seal is stuck down with a 2 pack glue and a protective primer is applied to the channel painted surface before the glue is applied. The glue & primer are available from Flying Spares.
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Robert J. Sprauer
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Posted on Thursday, 15 April, 2021 - 21:17:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Trunk seal positioning is important and preparation is key. The old seal has to be removed and assisted with a plastic scraper.
The adhesive is "contact cement".
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Graham Phillips
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Posted on Friday, 16 April, 2021 - 00:23:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

G'day everyone,....


Thanks Larry and Robert.

I'll look into those.

Yeah mine is stuck in there very well, Its gone hard but still seals and dose'nt leak but its starting to crack so I'm going to replace it before it leaks, I want to be ahead of this before it becomes an actual issue.


Graham.
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AdrianJ
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Try some GummiPhledge think it's called or similar, softens up rubber with repeated use and may resolve the need to change it - a fiddly job to get right.
T-One Topics has a good and comprehensive article on fitting boot seal.

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David Gore
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Posted on Friday, 16 April, 2021 - 08:02:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

My partner's "other car" is a VW Eos convertible which has a "hard top" folding roof with an integral opening sunroof as well. This has a multitude of seals all of which could be a potential source of water leaks.

To minimise this problem, a seal preservative Krytox GPL105 has been found to be the most effective preservative and for maintaining the seal suppleness necessary for effective sealing of this complex structure.

https://www.krytox.com/en/products/general-purpose-lubricants

Her car is 12 years old and the seals still look brand-new, retain their original suppleness and continue to provide an absence of air and water leaks. I lubricate the seals twice a year, once at the beginning of Spring and the second at the beginning of Autumn. The mearest smear of the lubricant is all that is required and I use the tip of my finger to apply and distribute the lubricant over the seal surfaces. The lubricant is expensive for the amount involved however a container as shown in the link below lasts between 3 and 5 years depending on the frequency of application.

https://www.amazon.com/GENUINE-Lubricant-Perfluoropolyether-Industrial-Bottle/dp/B0096VNMZO

eos

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Graham Phillips
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Posted on Friday, 16 April, 2021 - 09:49:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

G'day everyone,....


Adrian, most Shadows I have seen have the cap on the spare tyre bolt though a couple were a little torn up.

The boot seal in Camilla has small cracks in it and has gone hard. this is why I want to replace it before it starts to leak. I can use a conditioner on this seal but it won't fix the cracks already in it, I won't to start with a fresh seal.


Graham.
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Graham Phillips
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Posted on Wednesday, 05 May, 2021 - 19:59:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

G'day everyone,....

Last time I took Camilla out I just got her back into the safe confines of her workshop a couple of minutes after it had started to rain.

That was a couple of days ago.

Today I went to pay Camilla visit.

I had noted before that the fuel weakner filter rattled because the filter itself was loose inside.

So today I removed the filter housing.






I cleaned the inside of the housing,....




I was surprised to see how little of the foam that surounded the filter element remained, no wonder it rattled!



So to fix this I have some rubber that I got a while ago to put under the fuel tank straps on my Deuce and a Half.



I then cut off enough to go around the outside of the filter housing and then cut that again in half length ways,...






I made a gasket out of cork for the bottom, then refitted the filter, I'll replace this with a new one later and then fitted the rubber strip.



It holds the filter in firmly and looks neat.



You'll notice I left a gap for air and vapor.

Next time I take it off I'll sand off the old paint and repaint the housing, then fit the new filter.

And then refitted.






So after that small job I wiped down Camilla of any road grime and applied a light coating of polish,...










I'll buff this off tomorrow.



Graham.
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Adrianj
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Would the paper filter be not effective unless bonded to the base of the metal canister?

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Graham Phillips
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Posted on Thursday, 06 May, 2021 - 10:26:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

G'day everyone,....


As long as the filter element is held firmly on the base so air can;t get past, hence the cork gasket, the rubber seal i fitted holds the filter
itself in place and hard on the cork gasket.


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Graham Phillips
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Posted on Sunday, 09 May, 2021 - 10:48:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

G'day everyone,....


It was suggested that in regard to Camilla's charging issue that I disconnect the earth wire from thermal switches and see if that fix's the charging issue.

I have now tried that with no change.

So back to the fault being in the alternator itself.


Graham.
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Mark Aldridge
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Having regard to the exhorbitant price of this part, would it be possible to drill the case to take 2 long 4mm bolts passing through the centre of the filter, through the endcap drilled to match secured with locknuts.the filter could then be changed using a suitable motorcycle, garden machine etc air filter or fuel filter cartridge.The Shadow1 filter is more difficult but is possible if the housing is cut.
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Graham Phillips
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Posted on Monday, 10 May, 2021 - 19:51:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

G'day everyone,....


That's not a bad idea!



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TimNorth
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I don't have the dimensions to hand but K & N do little crankcase breather filters which would do the job, fit in the existing case and unless you drive in sandstorms never need replacing. Cost about 30 UK

https://www.knfilters.co.uk/vent.htm

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Graham Phillips
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Posted on Saturday, 12 June, 2021 - 15:10:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

G'day everyone,....

Well the other day the new under bonnet seal arrived so I just need to fit that though it looks like it will need some modification to fit at the corners.

Still have the charging issue to work out,.....

Tried the suggestion with the thermal switches with no change.

Everything suggests the problem is in the alternator itself.


Graham.
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Robert J. Sprauer
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A charcoal filter and PCV filter are 2 different filters. RR has a flame trap for a PCV.
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Graham Phillips
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G'day everyone,....

last evening I took off the old seal, it seems it was stuck on with some adhesive.

Had to go out today so had to put it back on before I left.

Tomorrow I'll clean the gutter so I can fit the new seal, though I will have to modify it at the corners.

Camilla ran like a dream today by the way,...

I will have to polish her again though,....


Graham.
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Graham Phillips
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Posted on Sunday, 18 July, 2021 - 10:15:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

G'day everyone,....


Well today was supposed to be the day I went on a trip to Daylesford with Camilla for high tea.

Thanks to certain fake narratives this trip has been postponed again.

On the bright side, the sun is out after a week or more of rain and I will now get the chance to fit Camilla's new bonnet seal.

So I'll get a chance to play with Camilla today.



Graham.
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Graham Phillips
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Posted on Monday, 19 July, 2021 - 17:44:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

G'day everyone,...


Well today I finally got to fit Camilla's new bonnet seal,...

Was a bit of a pain getting it to fit but I was'nt defeated.









Now The bonnet won't close easy,.. it sits higher because the seal will not compress enough.







Hopefully the bonnet will close all the way when the seal starts to compress, and I hope very soon!


Graham.
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Jeff McCarthy
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You could try adjusting the mechanism with the rod that sits astride the heater box to get it to sit properly - scribe the 2 plates on the ends first and tie some wires to the little lever on the offside to come out near the air intake scuttle so you can still open it if you overdo things.

I'm about to reset mine by trial & error after discovering my scribe marks disappeared when I washed the grease and grunge off prior to painting!
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Jeff McCarthy
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P.s.

So that's what it's for! After reading this thread I just discovered a spare wheel nut cover in my scrap rubber box. It's obviously been sitting there for 14 years (might come in handy one day) since it arrived with a bag of old bits that had been replaced by the previous owner.

What's this then? I *know* what it looks like Johnny but why do I have it?

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Robert J. Sprauer
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Seal is too proud. Where did you source the seal from?
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David Gore
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Posted on Monday, 19 July, 2021 - 20:19:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Graham,

If you can get to a Dive Shop, get some Krytox GPL105 liquid or grease that they use for protecting and preserving the seals and polymer components in breathing regulators and associated equipment.

These products are very effective in keeping seals and other components soft and supple for extended periods of time especially where exposure to sun and atmospheric ozone is prevalent.

The merest smear rubbed into the components with a finger turns the hardest grey seal into a soft, supple matt black item that can be reshaped with a finger to restore the original shape and sealing performance.

Expensive? Yes but a little goes a very long way. I have a 50ml bottle of the liquid costing around $90 10 years ago that has done 10 treatments of the folding roof and door seals of my partner's VW Eos convertible; they still look and perform like a brand new seals and I have at least 2 more treatments to go before the bottle will be exhausted. The trick is to put a series of drops of the liquid along the seal and then massage it into the seal with the tip of your finger. You only need enough liquid to put a thin layer on the seal surface, your finger and time does the rest.

If you cannot find a local source, it is readily available through Amazon. Don't be tempted by alternatives such as Gummi Pflege which are water-based rather synthetic oil based like GPL105 as these have a significantly lower service life before requiring retreatment. As always, the first cost is not the last cost and the performance will be remembered long after the price is forgotten.

It is highly probable your bonnet seal has been in storage for an extended time and has hardened due to loss of suppleness hence the difficulty in closing your bonnet flush with the vehicle body. Based on my experience with the Eos, a height variation similar to that shown in your photograph would be rectified by a properly fitted and lubricated seal.
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Graham Phillips
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G'day everyone,....

Thanks David.

The new seal is, well, new.

Its a slightly different shape because the old one over time was reshaped by the bonnet pressing on it. Its the same shape seal but because its new the rubber is effectively thicker though softer, it needs to be compressed a bit. I know of a few dive shops so will give that Krytox a try. I should get some in a couple of days. Thanks for that info.


Graham.
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Geoff Wootton
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Graham

Are you sure the seal goes through the 90 degree bends at either end. On all the car engine bays I have seen the bonnet seal is cut to the length of the top channel. It's worth checking before making any adjustments.

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Patrick Lockyer.
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This is the original standard seal fitted to SS2 completely different to a SS1




This is the SS1 set up!
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Geoff Wootton
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Hi Patrick

I've just checked the parts manual and you are right, the seal does extend forward by about a foot each side. The interesting difference in your photo to Graham's is the seal in your pic appears to be cut, jointed and glued at the corners whereas on Graham's car the seal is bent around the corners, causing the seal to lift, which may be obstructing the bonnet when closing.

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Graham Phillips
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G'day everyone,...


The old seal I replaced is exactly like the one in Patricks first photo.

The new seal was just a straight piece of the same strip. I had to cut out a small piece on the inside to get it to bend 90 deg at the corners.

The little rise you see at the very corner is'nt enough to cause the gap you see in the bonnet to the body, its the whole strip that dose'nt compress/flatten enough because its new even though its softer.

I did notice on the old seal it looks like the seal has been cut to allow it to fold over more along the back.


Graham.
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Graham Phillips
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G'day everyone,....


Well after a few days to let things settle I went out to my workshop to give Camilla a little TLC.

I raised the bonnet and started her to let her warm up.

This is the new seal from the side.




You can see how the new seal is thicker and the sealing surface is round.

This is the old seal, same view.



You can see how much thinner the seal is, also you can see the round sealing surface has been cut to allow the seal to fold over more,...

When I closed the bonnet it seems to be sitting lower though the drivers side is still the highest, I'd say its due to the corner where it folds around, should I maybe modify it at the corner?








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Robert J. Sprauer
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Original seals are mitered at the corner and fused and extend approx a foot along the wing.It appears your replacement is not the same profile , hence the height issue.
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Graham Phillips
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G'day everyone,....

Well its from Prestige parts through the local RR club so you'd think it would fit right out of the box,....


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Patrick Lockyer.
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If you were close by I would sort it out for you in exchange for your time to get a super shine on my car, credit where its due, mirror image!
Still have the old Dunlop valcaniser with attachments
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Graham Phillips
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G'day everyone,.....


Well today I removed the bonnet seal and then cut it along the trailing edge so it will be able to fold over the back into the drain channel like the old one was doing.

Now the bonnet close's a lot better.

There is still a slight gap at the corners but they should compress right down with a little more time.

Getting there,...



Graham.
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Graham Phillips
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G'day everyone,....


Yesterday afternoon I trimmed off the corner of the bonnet seal and now it sits a lot better.











Much better now.



Graham.
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Graham Phillips
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G'day everyone,....

Took Camilla out for some exercise today,...

Graham.

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Graham Phillips
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G'day everyone,....


Yesterday I took Camilla out for some exercise.

We id about 200 klms.

flawless!



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Graham Phillips
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G'day everyone,....


Yesterday Camilla an I went to Bendigo.

Now have just under 500mls to go till I'll do her next service.

That will make 120,000mls.

I'll then do her service every 5,000mls.

One thing that stands out is, since Camilla came into my care and the more She has been driven the less oil she is going through.


Graham.
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That's all great news Graham. I'm about to finally move to Melbourne (plague & governments permitting). I'm moving from a 2 entrance 2 garage corner block into a 1 bedroom flat in a skyscraper. Hence, I will be downsizing my extensive collection of spare parts. I will be looking for the occasional space to do a bit of minor fettling as well. Perhaps we could meet up sometime to compare notes?
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Graham Phillips
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G'day everyone,....


Jeff, that would be great.

I have a small workshop to provide TLC, even if it rains,...


Graham.
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Graham Phillips
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G'day everyone,....


I think the bonnet on Camilla has finally settled into place.

The seal as compressed enough for it to sit right.


Graham.
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Graham Phillips
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G'day everyone,...






Seals have compressed enough for the bonnet to sit flat again.



Graham.
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Graham Phillips
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G'day everyone,...


Yesterday I spent about an hour going over Camilla's leather with saddle soap again.

Its softening up nicely.

Graham.
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Graham Phillips
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G'day everyone,...



Tomorrow I'm going to collect this:










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G'day everyone,....

Got it!

And here is my own analog gear.






Will get to play with it tomorrow.



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Graham Phillips
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G'day everyone,....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwWL1KYrc8I

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Graham Phillips
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G'day everyone,....



Well Camilla has sat for 6 weeks so today I took her for a run out to Bendigo.

By the time I got back she is now less than 50mls away from 120,000 so this Sunday I'll do a service on her.

Then give her a wash and detail.



Graham.
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Graham Phillips
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G'day everyone,....


Well since our last trip out Camilla has about 15 ish litres in her tank, I have gotten a 5 litres of commercial grade injector cleaner and have put 1 litre into Camilla's tank.

I put a litre into my daily driver and my sisters car.

Also put about 200mls into the lawn mower,...

The other day I went to do a service on Camilla and the Hex tool in the tool kit dose'nt fit the sump drain plug,...?

It never rains but it just pours,....

sigh,....



Graham.
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Graham Phillips
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Posted on Thursday, 11 November, 2021 - 15:39:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

G'day everyone,...


What size is the tool I need to undo the sump drain plug?


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Geoff Wootton
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Posted on Friday, 12 November, 2021 - 01:58:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

I use a 14mm allen socket. It's a perfect fit on my car for the sump plug and also the two diff plugs. My car is a 74 SY1 - not sure if it's the same on a series 2.
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Just thought - I may have dressed the allen socket with a file - can't remember as it was 8 years ago. Maybe best to ignore my last posting (unless you are handy with a file)
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Robert J. Sprauer
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Posted on Friday, 12 November, 2021 - 02:43:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

You don't want to mess up the sump plug, pricey to replace. Buy a few washers.
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Posted on Friday, 12 November, 2021 - 07:46:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Kelly sells them:

https://www.britishtoolworks.com/product-page/sump-plug-socket
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His Britool is stainless and beautifully made.
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Posted on Friday, 12 November, 2021 - 08:19:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Graham

With reference to your question "What size is the tool I need to undo the sump drain plug?" Kelly gives the answer 0.525" or 67/128". I doubt you can find these easily, especially at the price Kelly is asking, so my advice is to order one from Kelly. As Wraithman say's it will be stainless and beautifully made. Also, given it is a small part, international postage should not be prohibitive.
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Graham Phillips
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Posted on Friday, 12 November, 2021 - 08:50:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

G'day everyone,...


Just ordered the tool from Kelly.

$93.00 AUD shipped.


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Posted on Saturday, 13 November, 2021 - 12:30:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

G'day everyone,...


Tool just shipped.

Happy dance!!,.....



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Kelly Opfar
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Posted on Sunday, 14 November, 2021 - 07:56:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

By the way, that's $61USD. Graham paid for express shipping so it will be there quick. There are cheaper shipping options.
https://www.britishtoolworks.com/product-page/sump-plug-socket
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Graham Phillips
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Posted on Sunday, 14 November, 2021 - 09:15:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

G'day everyone,...


Correct.



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Graham Phillips
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Posted on Friday, 19 November, 2021 - 12:51:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

G'day everyone,....


Fingers crossed I can go collect Camilla tomorrow.

Last Sat I dropped her off to get the charging issue sorted plus the plugs changed in B3-B4 including the ignition leads,....


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G'day everyone,...


Arrived today!



Now to get Camilla back and do the service.



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G'day everyone,...

WOOO HOOOOOOOO!


Camilla is ready to be picked up tomorrow!

Well, Camilla is all sorted!

Tony has decided to just give me his alternator, the one that works perfectly.

They still cannot figure out why the one I had dose not work.

It works when bench tested but just dose not work in Camilla.

It has them stumped.

They are going to pull it apart AGAIN an test each and every component.

Tony will keep mine and I get his good one.

Its almost like Camilla is rejecting the one she was provided with but loves Tony's shop alternator!

Also the plugs and leads are done.

He will -mail me the invoice later so I know how much to bring with me,....



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G'day everyone,...

Forgot to mention, B3 was stiff but B4 was seized.

Tony got it out by soaking it in oil and working it back and forward to get it out, seems it has'nt been touched in a while,.....

Hmmmm,....


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Posted on Sunday, 21 November, 2021 - 17:18:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

G'day everyone,....


Today I started the service (my first) on Camilla.



My drain pan just has enough capacity, I'll let her drain over night as I do with all my vehicles.

Got to christen the new tool from Kelly,.... ;)



The drain plug was very tight!

I had to hit the socket bar very hard with a hammer to break it loose, came out just fine after that.



Dose anyone else's have that notch in it?

Looks like its there to drive the plug around with a wedge to break the plug loose,...?



Also, the flat between the threads and head of the plug had what seems to be remnants of a fibrous material, gas tape maybe to help seal?

I cleaned that off.

Good thing the drain is at the back so I can leave Camilla on the ramps.



While the oil was draining I used some 2000 grit paper to clean the 'Rolls Royce' on the rocker cover.



All work is of course, supervised!




Tomorrow I'll change the filter and then refill with oil,... (after I put the drain plug back!)


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Robert J. Sprauer
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Posted on Sunday, 21 November, 2021 - 22:17:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

The sump plug does not have the cut as pictured. The Britool along with a breaker bar and a pipe slid over the breaker bar will give you more leverage. Never "whack" a tool. It's bad practice. Plugs are often over tightened due to NOT replacing the sealing washer. Simply tighten as needed.
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Jeff Martin
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Posted on Monday, 22 November, 2021 - 03:30:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

That wedge shape looks like damage from someone using a hard screw driver to get the plug out.
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Geoff Wootton
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Posted on Monday, 22 November, 2021 - 04:05:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Looks to me like a previous owner used a chisel to try and undo the plug.

Since this is your first oil change on your car I thought I'd add the following, although I am sure you know all this:

Make sure you fit a new aluminum sealing washer - you will be able to buy one from your local auto store - take the plug with you for the right size.

Be ultra careful you align the oil filter housing and oil bowl perfectly. Use the new oil ring that should be supplied with the filter. It is possible to get the filter bowl jammed against the lip of the housing. From underneath all will look ok but when you crank the engine the oil will pour out through the small gap. Don't ask me how I know this.

Apologies if you know all this - thought I'd add the comments just in case.
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Posted on Monday, 22 November, 2021 - 04:07:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Jeff - we posted at the same(ish) time. I concur.
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Jeff Martin
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Posted on Monday, 22 November, 2021 - 04:53:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Forums are odd that way Geoff.
My plug has Vice-Grip marks on it.
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Robert J. Sprauer
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Posted on Monday, 22 November, 2021 - 07:42:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Also, when removing the old element, lay the bits out and take a pic so re-assembly is easier.. memory can play games.
I would also pull out the coil lead to prime the system with fresh oil.
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Geoff Wootton
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Posted on Monday, 22 November, 2021 - 09:22:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

The order is also documented in tee-one topics chapter 68 page 952.

http://rrtechnical.info/TeeOne/TO68.pdf
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Posted on Sunday, 21 November, 2021 - 22:51:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

The sealing washer being, of course, an aluminium one.

(Message approved by david_gore)
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Larry Kavanagh
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Posted on Monday, 22 November, 2021 - 13:00:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

This is a Silver Shadow 11 so should have a spin-on oil filter.
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Graham Phillips
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Posted on Monday, 22 November, 2021 - 16:00:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

G'day everyone,....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rui1YXYH4-c

Graham.
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Kelly Opfar
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Posted on Tuesday, 23 November, 2021 - 14:44:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

The aluminum sump washers have a 1" ID.
I have new sump plugs made with a thicker flange and a properly fitting deeper internal hex for better tool engagement.

These also fit the final drive fill and drain ports and the fuel tank.

https://www.britishtoolworks.com/product-page/sump-plug-ug526

sump plug

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Graham Phillips
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Posted on Thursday, 25 November, 2021 - 09:31:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

G'day everyone,....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhLszREwsgU

Graham.
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michael vass
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Posted on Friday, 26 November, 2021 - 00:14:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Hi Graham

That would have cost you 255 dollars on UK

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