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Shane Atherton
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Username: shane_atherton

Post Number: 8
Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Thursday, 29 January, 2009 - 11:34:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Hello all,
I am enquiring as to whether any members have had their tyres "white walled" as an after thought by any of the small business operators that appear to be specialising in this modification. I believe it involves preparing the sidewall with a grinder wheel and applying a paint solution along the prepared surface. I'm not sure how long it lasts for either.
My dilemma is that I have Avons on my car, LRH 8376 but would like to lift the appearance with white walls. Also the car is black, so I am trying to break up some of the "blackness" that abounds. The Avons are about 80% tread depth, so I am loathe to retire them especialy given their cost. They have the raised bands on the sidewall already, so it shouldn't be too hard to indentify band width and location. If you have some information on this process I would dearly appreciate you sharing it with me/us. Especially any members from WA, as thats where I would need to find an agent.
Regards
Shane
LRH 8376

(Message edited by Shane Atherton on 29 January 2009)
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Richard Treacy
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Post Number: 1577
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Thursday, 29 January, 2009 - 12:13:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Try these guys, and ask who their customers or franchisees are near you:

http://www.coolcruisin.com.au/

http://www.coolcruisin.com.au/about.html
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Gus Brogden
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Post Number: 21
Registered: 2-2008
Posted on Thursday, 29 January, 2009 - 16:28:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Wow, Shane, what a pretty car. I like it better in all black.
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Lawrence Heasman
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Post Number: 41
Registered: 5-2008
Posted on Thursday, 29 January, 2009 - 17:17:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Call Dennis - Whitewall Tyres 0417 537452. He will come to you and do it at your house as long as you have somewhere undercover. I think he charges $20.00 per tyre. I was reccomended him by Brighton Motors, but it transpired the tyres were almost bald anyway so I got a new set of white walls through Chapmans at $150 per tyre fitted.
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Shane Atherton
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Username: shane_atherton

Post Number: 9
Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Friday, 30 January, 2009 - 08:25:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Thanks gents,
Richard, there is a "cool cruisin" white walling unit purchased by Antique Tyres here in Perth and I have contacted them, awaiting their response. Most appreciated.
Thanks Gus, it may stay all black for a little while depending upon the white walling procedure.
Lawrence, thanks for contact. Given I need the work done in WA, I won't disturb Dennis, but I believe the Victorian members appreciate the info.
Regards
Shane
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Lawrence Heasman
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Post Number: 42
Registered: 5-2008
Posted on Friday, 30 January, 2009 - 09:58:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

No worries Shane, didn't realise you were in WA as your car looks like its parked in Chapmans forecourt!!
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John Hall
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Posted on Thursday, 29 January, 2009 - 12:20:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Had this done on my Silver Wrath. Not a success.
When you try to clean them trouble starts.

(Message approved by david_gore)
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Robert Wort
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Post Number: 386
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Friday, 30 January, 2009 - 10:52:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Hi Shane,
There is one very important thing that you should do before any cosmetic work is done on your tyres regarding whitewalling, and that is to check the date of manufacture of your tyres. (Photo attached to show you where to look).
As you can see in the photo, it shows the numbers 4007 which simply means that the tyre was manufactured on the 4th month of 2007.
Irrespective of the condition of your treads, tyres should be replaced every 5 or 6 years as the compound material of the tyres deteriorate over time whether they are used or not. If the last number on your tyre shows 2 or earlier (eg 4002 or similar), it’s time to change the tyres anyway and you might as well purchase them with whitewalls (the extra cost is minimal).
Even if the tyres are 3 years old or more, the amount of deterioration on the sidewall may be made potentially unsafe if there is any grinding process involved.
I’m not trying to throw water over the fire Shane, I’m just advising you to be careful.



Date of Manufacture

The photo below tells all.

Old tyre with plenty of tread but because of its age, the tread delaminated and blew out.
Fortunately the driver was travelling slowly when it happened.

Blowout
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Robert Wort
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Post Number: 387
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Friday, 30 January, 2009 - 11:51:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Posted by Richard Treacy on Friday, 30 January, 2009 - 12:41 pm:

The code actually means week 40, 2007.


Hi Richard,
Yes, of course you are quite correct.

(Message edited by Robert_Wort on 30 January 2009)
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Richard Treacy
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Username: richard_treacy

Post Number: 1579
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Friday, 30 January, 2009 - 12:05:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Best read the attached to decode the tyre age. It is quoted in week/year eg 4007 is week 40, 2007. See the attachment for the DOT codes etc, noting the shelf life of tyres.
application/pdf
TyreAge.pdf (126.2 k)
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Mark Herbstreit
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Post Number: 79
Registered: 5-2005
Posted on Friday, 30 January, 2009 - 19:50:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

This may be a stupid question but all my Avons are white walled. Have you checked the previous owner has not simply reversed the tyres (due to preference) and the white walls are residing on the inside of the wheels dirty and undetected?
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Shane Atherton
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Sunday, 01 February, 2009 - 15:21:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Thanks for all the input gents.
Lawrence, good investigative observation, yes Chapmans did the pre purchase inspection for me and that's where this pic was taken.
It apprears the logical thing to do is to update the Avons with a factory produced white wall tyre. These Avons don't have the white walls reversed to the inside of the rim unfortunately, that is certainly what I was hoping might be the case.
Once again, many thanks to all.

(Message edited by Shane Atherton on 01 February 2009)
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Bill Coburn
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Username: bill_coburn

Post Number: 1076
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Monday, 02 February, 2009 - 16:42:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Shane/ You might be interested to know that I drove a car an '85 Spirit up from the coast and discovered afterwards that the wire mesh had come out from under the tread on both front tyres. The latter were Factory fitted and were two years older than the car!!! This was in 2005!!! Lots of tread as Robert has pointed out. Until recently I have been enjoying Coopers tyres which were whitewall the correct size and loading and speed rating for what the latter is worth in this country and they were fitted for $170 a corner!

A few months back - sorry no more available but we have plenty of Avons! At twice the price of course. Coopers I find have bought out Avon!!

THere is a korean tyre the Kumho which is similar to the Cooper, whitewall correct size and looks good. I think Bob Chapman uses them - ask him.

Unless you are planning on setting up wedding or funeral cars, if the Avons are over 5 years old bite the bullet and get rid of them!
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Trevor P Hodgkinson
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Post Number: 20
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Monday, 09 February, 2009 - 19:39:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

While we are talking about other brand tyres.
Which ones run nice & quiet like the original Turbo steels
Two of my cars are fitted with Turbo steels and when running on the road are silent at any speed.
Another has Bridgestones which scream & howl at any speeds over 80 kph the last has 4 different tyres ( none Avons) and you can clearly hear each individual tyre running on the road at almost any speed.
I originally thought that there was a problem with the steering but if I swap the tyres from one car to the other the results follow the tyres.
So how quiet are "other brand" rubber.