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Jan Forrest
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Post Number: 563
Registered: 1-2008
Posted on Thursday, 24 July, 2014 - 22:44:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Expected to fetch US$300,000
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Bob uk
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Posted on Friday, 25 July, 2014 - 05:15:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Shame no photos

Cars such as this are hard to value. I suspect that the car maybe might need work and even a full restoration.
A proper phantom in nice condition in the UK £50-75K
All phantoms will have some famous person in it's history. Or infamous.
But Elvis is a big earner so it may well make $300k

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Brian Vogel
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Post Number: 923
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Posted on Friday, 25 July, 2014 - 08:00:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Bob, et. al,

1963 ROLLS-ROYCE PHANTOM V TOURING LIMOUSINE

Given what Bonhams says about the car's recent servicing, in the main picture on the auction page the rear seems awfully low and the front end unusually high.

Brian
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Bob uk
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Posted on Friday, 25 July, 2014 - 08:08:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

That's because Elvis is sitting in the back.

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Patrick Lockyer.
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Post Number: 889
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Posted on Saturday, 26 July, 2014 - 05:54:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

But Elvis is a big earner so it may well make $300k

I would put a value in excess of $500k.
This is due to the values of classics go through the roof at the moment.

If only I could put some pics up,think my old computor may be to blame!
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Randy Roberson
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Post Number: 260
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Posted on Saturday, 26 July, 2014 - 13:08:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

I read recently his airplanes which are on display at Graceland are to be moved/sold/whatever: just got rid of.
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Bob uk
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Posted on Saturday, 26 July, 2014 - 08:59:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Pat.
I reckon you could be right on pawn stars anything Elvis they go mad for.

Your car has if I remember right has lpg and twin vaporizers.
How does the water circuit go are lpg engine feeds separate and how does the electrical no ignition safety pulse bit work with two vaporizers to control.

I need new flints for pilot light in mine because my coal injector is sooty.

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Patrick Lockyer.
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Posted on Sunday, 27 July, 2014 - 05:01:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Bob I changed both Shadow 1 & 11 to the single vaporizer set up with BRC at90e years ago.
Depression is sensed on cranking so start ups on LPG is easy even on frosty days.

Fit and forget apart from the yearly drain down.
Water "T" conections off the two heater pipes for the heater.
Have not seen your car @ "Classics On The Prom"
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Bob uk
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Posted on Sunday, 27 July, 2014 - 06:09:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

No.
I tend to wander around but not show car although people in car parks on their way to the parade see my car parked

Or my appalling build quality Cherokee that I wish someone would steal.

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Jan Forrest
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Username: got_one

Post Number: 565
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Posted on Monday, 28 July, 2014 - 20:49:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

The setup on SRH 24568 is virtually identical to Patrick's. So far it's a simple open loop system, but I've got all the necessary gubbins (sorry for the jargon) to change it to a closed loop system with lambda sensor feedback.
As for starting on gas it depends on setting the 'idle bleed' screw to the precise opening, but even that won't feed until the ignition is switched on as it's activated via a relay.
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Bob uk
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Posted on Tuesday, 29 July, 2014 - 05:23:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

SRH 17668 or 16778.
Mine starts easily on lpg if left for a week two goes is needed. The choke is held open by a bit of black wire clamped by the large hose clip for air hose.
As soon as hyd lights out car drives smooth temp hits 40 deg c in 2 miles full power is fine.

This is the only lpg system I have fitted. The car run fine from the first time I started it. No problems since 10years.

Open loop single vaporizer.
The ends of the gas pipes are almost touching the carb slides which are held open by a metal tube over needle.
if needed remove tubes and turn to petrol.
Range around town is 110 miles and 160 at 60 mph running feather foot
It took 5 easy 4 hour days to fit good value £600

Oil last longer no fuel pump no petrol wash no choke.
Disadvantages are small range my average journey is 10 miles
Nearest lpg is BP.1 mile. I wish I had converted to lpgism when I first got the car. Not so much the money saved but that the engine is so smooth on lpg.

At lights on a fully warmed engine I check the ignition light to make sure it is running.
650 rpm never falters.
Max speed is probably 100 ish.

My reason for question is that my bands drummer has a 245 Volvo which he has lpged with a new tank and second rest the vaporizer is to small he has.another also too small. I have told him to buy a bigger one rather than 2 small because of splitting the ignition pulse between to vaporizer which may cause the gas to be supplied even if one vaporizer is leaking because the other is keeping the engine running.

The drain down do you mean heavy ends. This not one my juvenile wise cracks.

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Bob uk
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Posted on Friday, 15 August, 2014 - 10:11:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Today's date is 15 August time for the auction.
I bet two full stops and a semicolon.
..; that the car makes $395k.

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Brian Vogel
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Posted on Saturday, 16 August, 2014 - 09:02:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Bob,

$396K, with buyers premium, as shown on the Bonhams page I'd posted a link to prior to the auction.

Brian
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Bob uk
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Posted on Saturday, 16 August, 2014 - 09:25:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

I guessed lucky.

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Jan Forrest
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Posted on Saturday, 16 August, 2014 - 21:13:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Bob. It's not unusual to find 2 vapourisers on the same engine. As long as both output hoses are 'Y'd into each other before entering the inlet manifold, the gas quantity should be enough for almost any engine and certainly more than enough for a Volvo. Admittedly balancing them might be bit tricky. Particularly if they're not identical models. Fortunately as the outputs will be supplementary across all 4 cylinders this shouldn't much of a problem.

I don't know what you mean by 'ignition pulse' in this context. TTBOMK the vapourisers are merely fed a constant DC current from the ignition switch - usually via a controller unit and a relay.
That's how the setup on the Shadow works, although my first foray into LPG country was a sequential system on a Jeep Grand Cherokee around 9 years ago. Although the Jeep would start on gas, the mpg would suffer severely, so I just let it start on petrol and switch over when it wanted to - usually within a mile or so.
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Bob uk
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Posted on Sunday, 17 August, 2014 - 00:38:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

What happened is that he fitted a used vap. which was too small. He had another which was also too small. The car struggled to hold 50mph. Which will damage the engine due to fuel being so weak.

So he brought a new OmVL. Now car goes 70mph plus.

The gas pipe is 15mm copper in the carb mouth. It.starts without choke.

Volvo 245 2.2 litre 4 banger.
If RR wanted to make an estate car this car would be a good starting point.

Which is why I want one rather than a stupid Cherokee. I paid £1500 in 2006 and spent £500 on maintenance so I can't complain, but I will.
In my imagination it should be better.

Oh what a fool I have been.

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Jan Forrest
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Posted on Sunday, 17 August, 2014 - 21:42:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

As far as I'm aware the OMVL unit is the largest car vapouriser currently available. Since it will cope with a Rolls up to the ton+ (don't ask me how I know ) the Volvo will be a doddle.
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Bob uk
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Posted on Sunday, 17 August, 2014 - 23:39:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

It looks different from my OmVL. The Volvo is very smooth to ride in and the engine feels like a straight six. The back is like a cave in which small children shall be lost. Volvo or merc.w123 estate are about the best estates. American estates can be good.

Fastest I have been was 138 mph Volvo T5 as a passenger. 90 in my SY. And me driving 120mph XJ12 and 220mph in a small plane at 150 feet 5 miles out to sea along the Jurassic coast.

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Jan Forrest
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Posted on Monday, 18 August, 2014 - 20:48:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

For a smooth ride at speed the car I loved was my XJS V12. Both my wife and mother were usually nervous over 50mph, but neither even noticed when we strolled down the A1 at 120+.
Some time later with a friend in the passenger seat we were being flashed by an impatient Porsche driver as we overtook slower traffic around the speed limit. I wasn't going to take that from the impudent pillock, so I floored the loud pedal. There was a slight hesitation before the 'box kicked down, the rear drooped under the thrust and the Porsche disappeared never to be seen again
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Bob uk
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Posted on Tuesday, 19 August, 2014 - 07:05:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

A colleague of mine had to pick up a F40 from felixstowe and deliver to Dorset. At 3am he no traffic M11 and 194 mph
He said when he got the car the electric Windows weren't working ( it's a Ferrari!?!) and the speed repaired them and that it was the first Ferrari he had driven where every thing worked.


I fitted two tyres to a Honda blackbird and the copper came back a few days later and asked for another two. He said that they were good tyres but wear very quick over 150 especially concrete motorways. Then a copper with him told me that it's an excuse because he can't stay with me and can I have another bike because I got a rattle in the engine.

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