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Richard Treacy
Grand Master
Username: richard_treacy

Post Number: 921
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Saturday, 26 November, 2005 - 03:14:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

This is not an advertisement.

I have just bought a complete set of accumulator spheres and brake caliper seals from Introcar for my Turbo R as spares for my car or for friends who may need them sometime. Introcar is having a clearance sale on a wide range of postwar spares right now, especially on brakes and hydraulics. It has a new manager, a really impressive New Zealand guy who has been there for quite some time. He is rearranging the business.

I consider that accumulator spheres at £25 (A$60) each and disc rotors at £82.50 (A$190) are rather unbeatable prices.

If you're worried about freight charges and lead times, don't. I live in Central Europe (non-EU), and the freight charges from London to here are the same as to Australia. Components shipped by Introcar to Canberra arrive earlier too: believe it or not, Australian Customs are super-efficient. They don't waste their time collecting duties and GST on items costing less than a few hundred dollars either. Expect 1 week to be a very slow time between ordering and receipt on your doorstep.

RT.

ps: they ship on the day of ordering, and automatically refer you to the courier's online tracking information. No emails or phone calls needed. I ordered by email this afternoon, and received this a few hours later:
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We are pleased to confirm the despatch of your order.
You can track its progress directly by visiting the web address below and keying in
the consignment number listed here.
Courier : PARCELFORCE

Web Address : www.parcelforce.co.uk

Consignment : EE (blanked out)

Date : 25/11/2005

IntroCar Limited
1 Manorgate Road
Kingston upon Thames
Surrey KT2 7AW

Tel: +44 (0)20 8541 5642
Fax: +44 (0)20 8546 5058
Web: www.introcar.com
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Craig Knight
Experienced User
Username: grum_ck

Post Number: 16
Registered: 9-2007
Posted on Wednesday, 18 November, 2009 - 19:13:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Hi Richard, looks like a great deal… I wish it were a current “ad”! I’m looking at a shiny new set of brakes for my Turbo (chassis 59631). Being a late model, it looks like I need the ‘performance’ disc rotors for mine and the best option I’ve found so far is Introcar at £295 each (although I’m planning on a little more searching). I thought I would check with the Guru’s if I need to order anything else with them (rather than find out when trying to fit them). i.e. what are the chances I’ll need/want pistons and seals after 52k miles? Would I be better off starting the work and seeing what I need? It seems the pads shouldn’t be an issue (with a slight mod for the sensor as mentioned in other threads)?

Also, if there is anybody else looking for parts, I would be happy to put in a joint order. I’m based in Frankston at the moment, but get to Lilydale and Melbourne regularly. Good chance to meet another local owner.

Cheers.
Craig.
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Paul Yorke
Grand Master
Username: paul_yorke

Post Number: 490
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Wednesday, 18 November, 2009 - 19:43:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Craig,

Buy a seal kit anyway. It will be something you can keep on the shelf anyway. Pistons will almost certainly be fine.

I've seen 1996 cars with calliper seals go at 25K and 1981 seals with 150k and visa versa. Seems to be no rhyme or reason to them. One calliper may leak and the other 3 be fine for many years and miles afterwards.

I fairly sure your pads will be different. :-(

My disc supplier had them on special. Feel free to Email me if you'd like me to get you a quote.
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Craig Knight
Experienced User
Username: grum_ck

Post Number: 17
Registered: 9-2007
Posted on Wednesday, 18 November, 2009 - 23:08:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Thanks Paul, I figured there would be something likely. I didn’t think the callipers/pads were particularly special (except for the number of them, and the sensor). I will check to make sure I can get them locally.

I’ll message you about prices.
Cheers.

(Message edited by grum_ck on 18 November 2009)
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Eugene Oleinik
Experienced User
Username: eugenerus

Post Number: 35
Registered: 8-2009
Posted on Thursday, 19 November, 2009 - 01:49:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Craig, if you change disc rotors, you need to get the new pads or machine the old pads. I would recommend the new pads.

You might want to change the pistons too. Do it all at once and you won't need to attend the brake system later. Rotors, pistons, seal kits and pads are better changed at once.

Check with other suppliers for parts prices. I have found Paul's prices to be very competitive.
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Craig Knight
Experienced User
Username: grum_ck

Post Number: 19
Registered: 9-2007
Posted on Thursday, 19 November, 2009 - 08:43:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Hi Eugene, thanks. I’ll defiantly get new pads, just trying to work out if I can get non-genuine ones that will be suitable.

And Paul’s looking like the way for the rotors.

Cheers.
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Richard Treacy
Grand Master
Username: richard_treacy

Post Number: 2027
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Friday, 20 November, 2009 - 08:46:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Craig, a word of strong advice here: best not mess around with non-standard pads on any car, let alone on a Bentley.

There are alternatives which fit for sure, but there are many worn out rotors out there as a result too. Needless to say, pad and rotor materials are always a poor compromise, but balanced in some way in each case. Change one material a little and the equation falls flat.

Fortunately, and surprisingly given their rarity, a set of genuine pads for your 340mm rotors will only cost you a little over twice those for the usual 280mm rotors. The standard ones are inexpensive, compared to most other makes, as a starting point anyhow. Given the specifification of these Crewe cars, it does surprise me how inexpensive the brake parts are thanks to our excellent specialist supply chains in the UK. Likewise, astonishingly the 340mm rotors are priced at only a little over twice the standard 280mm ones used from chassis 15951 SYs onwards.

You can always take the option of going back to 280mm brakes if you wish, as only the front brakes are affected until the rare Alcon rear brakes appeared later. The consensus seems to be that 340mm rotors are of a very marginal benefit when driven hard, and a slight disadvantage performance-wise in normal to spirited use.

As an aside, thank your lucky stars that you don't have the fancy 2008 Brooklands brake option with ceramic discs, an UKL 18,000 (A$34,000) option. I have heard of, like, $25,000 for a set of rotors and pads. I know that our Porsche cousins often come to earth with a crash and retrofit conventional rotors when the ceramics are spent for the third time under private ownership. No one likes to skimp on price, but when the premium hits five grand or more, maybe a cheaper genuine option is warranted sometimes.

RHT.
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Bill Payne
Experienced User
Username: wimpy

Post Number: 32
Registered: 1-2007
Posted on Saturday, 21 November, 2009 - 06:20:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Richard couldn't be more correct! Years ago I was road racing, decided to try to cut costs by using non-oem pads on my stock sedan. The OEM pads normally lasted 2 or 3 race week-ends.

First set of aftermarket pads (from Beck-Arnley) lasted part of 1 race, pad material disintegrated, steel backing destroyed the rotors. Luckily I was able to finish the race without destroying the car. It was an expensive lesson.
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Craig Knight
Experienced User
Username: grum_ck

Post Number: 21
Registered: 9-2007
Posted on Friday, 11 December, 2009 - 12:36:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Thanks all for the advice. I’ve gone with a new set of original rotors and pads (thanks Paul).. The pads on the ‘performance’ brakes are quite different to the standard ones. Now I just need to get them on the car (hopefully with no complications).

Cheers, Craig.