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Omar M. Shams
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Username: omar

Post Number: 892
Registered: 4-2009
Posted on Monday, 07 November, 2016 - 03:43:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

I need to buy a knock sensor for my 96 Continental R. This part does not have to be a Crewe part. Any suggestions on which one is readily available with a plug and play feature?
Thanks
Omar
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Lluís Gimeno-Fabra
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Username: lluís

Post Number: 414
Registered: 8-2007
Posted on Tuesday, 03 January, 2017 - 19:35:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Sorry for the vary late answer: the Lammerholms in our cars are unfindable. You will need to adapt a usual Bosch ring type. It's precisely the same pluy but you will need to machine an adaptor I believe M12 to M6? Tell me in case you need the product number ofBosch.
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Omar M. Shams
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Username: omar

Post Number: 983
Registered: 4-2009
Posted on Wednesday, 04 January, 2017 - 04:31:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Thanks Lluis.
I have done exactly that.
I bought Bosch part number 0261231188 and it arrived yesterday from the USA. Now the check engine light has gone out so I will not replace it until it returns. Yes I will need to put a bolt through it to install it.
Thanks
Omar
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Patrick Hunziker
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Username: pahu

Post Number: 20
Registered: 7-2016
Posted on Wednesday, 04 January, 2017 - 20:43:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Regarding the Substitution of the original Lamerholm Sensors with the Bosch items, for me there is a question of compatibility. I'm no specialist in Engine-electronics but as far as i understand the working principle of a Knock-Sensor, there is an output-signal from the Sensor which is just a Voltage in relation to the acceleration. The electronics to detect Knocks ist calibrated to the characteristics of the Sensor (Voltage / Acceleration). So if i use another Sensor with different characteristics than the original Sensor, there is the possibility that knocking is not detected...

Please let me know, if i'm totally wrong with my thinking...

Regards

Patrick
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Udo Hoffmüller
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Username: udo

Post Number: 96
Registered: 2-2008
Posted on Saturday, 07 January, 2017 - 10:23:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

As far to my knowlodge the Bosch sensor 0261231188 is the wrong one for our cars. The correct one should be 0261231006. I do not have datasheets of those two sensors, but impedance, senstivity ... maybe different. I share Patrick's concerns..

The reason is that our cars use Saab Turbo management, my TurboECU shows a Saab parts number together with the RR parts number. Saab uses the above mentioned Bosch sensor 0261231006. Consequently this should be the right sensor. There are many alternatives to this Bosch sensor by Facet, VDO ...

Regards - Udo
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michael vass
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Username: mikebentleyturbo2

Post Number: 645
Registered: 07-2015
Posted on Monday, 04 May, 2020 - 21:01:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Hi Guys
The only info I can find is
"The Lamerholm VP50/1 is a standard knock sensor. The manufacturer specifies the response band to 2kHz to 20 kHz."
Does it have an internal resistor?
Who knows what frequency our engines knock at?.
Is the bosch 0261231006 a wideband sensor?
Cheers
Mike
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michael vass
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Username: mikebentleyturbo2

Post Number: 649
Registered: 07-2015
Posted on Monday, 11 May, 2020 - 06:19:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Hi All
Think I've found an alternative (on order)
But can anybody tell me where to find
"Engine Fault Diagnosis Chart - Possible Causes of Fault
(refer to table: 4736e17e_0003) (refer to table: 4736e17e_0004)"
I've looked everywhere for this , why are R-R & B manuals so cryptic???
Thanks
Mike
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Omar M. Shams
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Username: omar

Post Number: 2020
Registered: 04-2009
Posted on Monday, 11 May, 2020 - 15:54:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Dear Mike,
There is a factory workshop manual called IETIS. You need to get that. You will find both these tables there.
One of our members Paul York can supply you with the CD for this manual. It is a must have item and not too expensive.
I could not copy the two tables for you as they were a few pages long.
Good luck.
Omar
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michael vass
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Username: mikebentleyturbo2

Post Number: 650
Registered: 07-2015
Posted on Monday, 11 May, 2020 - 17:25:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Thanks Omar I have a downloaded copy but can't find them on there (maybe missing).
What section ? Or page are they?
Thanks Mike
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Omar M. Shams
Grand Master
Username: omar

Post Number: 2021
Registered: 04-2009
Posted on Tuesday, 12 May, 2020 - 04:48:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Dear Mike,
Go to the top of the screen and click the binocular icon. A window will open up. insert 4736e17e into the box and click ok. it will take you to that exact place.
Then do the same again for the other table.
Good luck.
Omar
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michael vass
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Username: mikebentleyturbo2

Post Number: 651
Registered: 07-2015
Posted on Tuesday, 12 May, 2020 - 22:03:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Dear Omar many thanks again seems to work from the links today within the manual ah well computers for you lol
Cheers Mike
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Omar M. Shams
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Username: omar

Post Number: 2022
Registered: 04-2009
Posted on Wednesday, 13 May, 2020 - 03:14:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Glad you are sorted Mike.
All the best.
Omar
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michael vass
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Username: mikebentleyturbo2

Post Number: 678
Registered: 07-2015
Posted on Monday, 06 July, 2020 - 08:08:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Hi all I've found a substitute part on Ebay for the knock sensor ok
Mike
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Lluís Gimeno-Fabra
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Username: lluís

Post Number: 459
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Sunday, 12 July, 2020 - 16:11:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Dear all,
Dear Michael,

Thanks to Michael, the VALEO replace number is found and tested in my #52020 Continental R: VALEO 255400. It's almost identical and direct-fit and eliminates the adapter and risks associated with the ring-type Bosch systems (vibration signal poisoning), which stopped my engine reaching 4500rpm on full boost, it would not go above 4100).

I have fitted it and tested in my car and it works perfectly, of course, do so at your own responsibility and risk.

Best,

Lluís

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