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Lluís Gimeno-Fabra
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Post Number: 158
Registered: 8-2007
Posted on Tuesday, 27 March, 2012 - 07:19:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Dear all.

This week (after months of just driving) I decided to finally do some maintenance myself with with my car (1994 Continental R), before it goes to Brabo for the yearly service.

I had noticed drops of Power Assisted Steering Fluid on the garage floor and traced them back to a completely rotten reservoir to Power Assisted Steering pump low pressure hose.

Now it is replaced with a quality (generic) PAS hose. I am however afraid that due to the proximity of this hose with the exhaust manifold and despite the mini-heat shied, this hose may have a high temperature special specification.

Introcars cannot supply the original component and has recommended using a generic PAS hose.

Can somebody confirm that a generic Power Assisted Steering hose will do? Do I need something special for the sort of vacuum / temperature that the car generates for this application?

Do I also need to change the high-pressure hoses to the rack? The look like new with 50000 miles and I would hate touching them for nothing ( and then spending time sorting the leaks that changing them will general ... but I am rather safe than sorry.

Best regards,

L. Gimeno
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James Feller
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Post Number: 184
Registered: 5-2008
Posted on Thursday, 29 March, 2012 - 21:34:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Hi Llius,

Look I'm no mechanic, and strictly speaking the service manuals state that all hoses should be periodically replaced on a time basis...if you read the manuals I think I recall that every 5 years Crewe recommended all rubber hoses replaced. Now that was a recommendation and sure most were when they were "new cars" being serviced by dealer networks. Now though most of us either have specialist mechanics doing our servicing or do bits and pieces ourselves where we can. So I would doubt the hoses on your car are the original ones it rolled out of crewe with. The more important items I would make sure are in very good condition are all the cooling related hoses the car has eg coolant, gearbox, intercooler et al....these are vital and need to be in sound condition. Re the hose you replaced as long as its a good quality high pressure rated PAS hose you should be fine. Our cars do generate heat but not extremely more than other cars these days and lets face it, high pressure rubber hoses are high pressure rubber hoses. So long as worm clip screws are tight and secure you shouldnt have issues. As for others, if they are not leaking or going damp and rotten...id check for clip tightness and then leave them alone.
Cheers
J
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Omar M. Shams
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Post Number: 232
Registered: 4-2009
Posted on Friday, 30 March, 2012 - 03:59:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Dear Lluis,
I agree with James.
I usually run steering hoses to destruction and accept that when they fail they never fail catastrophically. You will always get plenty signs to point you in that direction. whenever I change a hose, I always change them as a set because hoses are cheap (generic hoses I mean) and if one fails then the rest are all waiting in line. High Pressure hoses are usually repaired in hydraulic hose shops where they replace the rubber parts with high grade good quality replacement rubber. We have high ambient conditions in Dubai yet I get more than 5 years out of my generic hoses here.
Good Luck
Omar
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Lluís Gimeno-Fabra
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Post Number: 159
Registered: 8-2007
Posted on Monday, 02 April, 2012 - 06:11:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Hi,

Thanks for the replies.

But all those high pressure oil hoses to the filter (oil) and rack... you do not change them every five years, do you?

In mean, I do change all elastic hoses regularly (three years, that's water and so on)... and that is all in terms of hoses.

Lluís
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Omar M. Shams
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Post Number: 236
Registered: 4-2009
Posted on Monday, 02 April, 2012 - 12:19:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Only when they fail.
They never fail catastrophically. They give you plenty warning before failing - So why change them periodically?
Omar
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Jan Forrest
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Post Number: 324
Registered: 1-2008
Posted on Monday, 02 April, 2012 - 19:57:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

As I run a Shadow 1 the high pressure power steering hose is an obsolete design that can only be bought as a 'remanufactured' unit at ridiculous cost. Fortunately it was suggested on this forum that the old metal ends could be put on a section of new high pressure hose for a fraction of the price. Fortunately a local hydraulics specialist was willing to do this and The Old Girl no longer leaks ATF all over the exhaust downpipe.

However I regularly inspect all the hoses - water, air, vacuum and hydraulics - to check for incipient failure so as to avoid an embarrassing 'failure to proceed'.
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Lluís Gimeno-Fabra
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Post Number: 160
Registered: 8-2007
Posted on Tuesday, 03 April, 2012 - 17:26:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Dear all,

Thank you very much for the replies.