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Nigel Parker
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Username: trawler

Post Number: 2
Registered: 9-2011
Posted on Tuesday, 04 October, 2011 - 11:48:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Dear Experts,have a new problem,the 'check gearbox' warning light comes on,it appears intermittent as its sometimes out on start up but more often than not its on all the time lately.If it is out then around 80KMH and/or driving for 5 minutes or more it comes back on.Gearbox functions normally when light out and up to 3rd gear when warning active.I have checked the fluid level with engine running as per manual and level within hatched markings.Any ideas or tips on this gratefully received.Brgds Nigel
p.s. any where to get boot carpet?????
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Richard Treacy
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Username: richard_treacy

Post Number: 2422
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Tuesday, 04 October, 2011 - 12:34:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

You need to interrogate the computer to find the fault code. Your car is listed in the archives as a 1997 Model Year LWB Turbo R. Unfortunately I believe that the earlier friendly blink code diagnostic system was deleted for the 1996MY standard cars, and earlier for Contis, I think when the Zytek EMS was introduced, meaning that the fault diagnosis should be carried out only using a Mastercheck monitor. I suggest that you visit a Crewe dealer or specialist to have the diagnostics downloaded. Although the later cars are demonstrable superior in so many ways, it annoys me that the convenience of such things like the blink codes were eliminated by almost every car maker to foil us and to ensure that you visit a fully-equipped workshop each time the thing burps.

RT.
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Nigel Parker
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Registered: 9-2011
Posted on Tuesday, 04 October, 2011 - 12:43:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Thks Richard.Have scheduled a visit to a indie on Thurs this week,was just checking to see if I missed anything.Brgds Nigel
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Paul Yorke
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Post Number: 803
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Tuesday, 04 October, 2011 - 17:00:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Hi Nigel,

Has it had a fluid and filter change recently? (past 3 years?)
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Nigel Parker
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Registered: 9-2011
Posted on Tuesday, 04 October, 2011 - 18:40:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Hi Paul,I asked for the fluid to be changed last visit(1 month ago)Let me confirm that it was done(Language barrier).cheers Nigel
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Nigel Parker
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Username: trawler

Post Number: 5
Registered: 9-2011
Posted on Tuesday, 04 October, 2011 - 19:11:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

oops no the fluid and filter were not changed........Is that a hint as to the first thing to do??????Cheers Nigel
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Omar M. Shams
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Username: omar

Post Number: 209
Registered: 4-2009
Posted on Wednesday, 05 October, 2011 - 04:45:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Dear Nigel,
Yes Absolutely. This is about your only real starting point. It is a cheap activity and well worth doing. If the sump shows any signs of debris, you will know that something is wrong with the gearbox and you have to schedule an overhaul. You can see how the car performs after the Tranny oil and Tranny filter change.
Good luck
Omar
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Nigel Parker
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Registered: 9-2011
Posted on Thursday, 13 October, 2011 - 22:44:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Ok fluid nd filter done,OBD chked and no gearbox messages but they did find 1 engine message to do with speed sensor which they cleared.(sorry they were not specific).Ok 20 min road test but heavy traffic so not fast.I picked her up and around 20 mins once on the highway' bing the lights back on'Drove home and after parking 30 mins had to go out again,warning light out and remained out.However this morning bloody thing back on.Definately intermittent but on more often than out.So any ideas Gents?????Cheers from soggy hkg.
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Nigel Parker
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Posted on Tuesday, 18 October, 2011 - 22:25:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Some new info for the tech gurus.While waiting for a appointment at dealer had to drive today and as a experiment decided to keep speed below 80KMH.Outcome was that 'chk gearbox' warning light stayed off for whole trip.So any ideas(hopefully not expensive ones)Cheers Nigel
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Nigel Parker
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Username: trawler

Post Number: 8
Registered: 9-2011
Posted on Saturday, 22 October, 2011 - 00:33:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Ok next update,had her into Bentley and they said 2 fault codes to do with clutch slipping.They changed transmission oil and filter,test drive by them was ok.........Drove home and while made a much longer distance,eventually chk gearbox light came on but after around 30kms.So am I looking at a replacement transmission and if yes whats the best way to sourced one apart from Bentley.Brgds from sunny Hkg.
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Nigel Parker
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Username: trawler

Post Number: 9
Registered: 9-2011
Posted on Monday, 24 October, 2011 - 19:28:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Ok the Bentley service center say the fault code was P1739 Transmission component slipping. " Anyone any ideas apart from transmission change....Cheers Nigel
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Omar M. Shams
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Username: omar

Post Number: 213
Registered: 4-2009
Posted on Tuesday, 25 October, 2011 - 01:13:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Dear Nigel,
I will assume that Hong Kong is similar to Dubai, so I will advise you on what I would do if this was my car and we were in Dubai.
Not everyone is an expert on everything - so i dont go close to gearboxes. I can tell you however that your gearbox needs an overhaul - you have little choice on options as a consequence.
The gearox on your car is a General Motors GM400 unit that is very robust and durable. An overhaul from an American Gearbox Specialist (and there are many in Dubai) will cost me in the region of US$1,500 assuming nothing is broken. I dont think anything is broken in your box - it is probably in need of new o rings, clutches, bands, seals etc and a good clean.
Phone a few of these gearbox specailists and get a quote for an overhaul. You will get two prices for a GM400 gearbox overhaul - a price for any American car that uses the box, and a "slightly different" price for a Rolls-Royce / Bentley.

Good luck.

Omar
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Nigel Parker
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Posted on Tuesday, 25 October, 2011 - 01:38:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Many Thanks Omar,sort of had the same feeling,just need to find a suitable shop that does good work rather than a 'cowboy'.Will let you know how it goes.brgds Nigel
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Nigel Parker
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Username: trawler

Post Number: 14
Registered: 9-2011
Posted on Friday, 18 November, 2011 - 09:44:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

OK last update.New gearbox installed and the pesky 'check gearbox'light' is off.I managed to purchase a brand new gearbox from the UK that with shipping was cheaper than doing a overhaul here in Hong Kong even at a Indie garage.So big smile and lower fuel bills..........