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Randy Roberson
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Username: wascator

Post Number: 3
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Wednesday, 01 July, 2009 - 01:26 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Sirs: For a car on offer, word is 4 of these are starting to crack, need to be replaced, $1500 US parts and labor. what is this? Sounds like suspension parts, something to do with the wheel bearings? Regards
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Paul Yorke
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Post Number: 352
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Wednesday, 01 July, 2009 - 02:29 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Hi Randy,

They are at the inside end of the lower front suspension wishbones or levers. There are 4 pins and 4 rubber bonded washers which usually need changing at the same time.

Not one of my favourite jobs!
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Bill Coburn
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Post Number: 1142
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Wednesday, 01 July, 2009 - 10:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

For Randy and everyone really. I have never heard of these pins cracking or failing, they are extremely high quality steel with a bonded rubber bush. In OZ they retail for about $500 plus. The old ones are usually discarded, throwing out a few bucks of rubber and some very expensive steel!

For some years RA Chapman http://www.rachapmanautomotive.com.au have manufactured a composite sleeve that incidentally is impervious to oil, the main killer of these components. This sleeve replaces the bonded item on the original pin, the old one being removed with a rotary wire brush. The sleeve retails for about $30!

Repairers, hobbyists and enthusiasts alike would be well advised to have a look at the web site and the cornucopia of parts and services available for our cars.
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Richard Treacy
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Post Number: 1775
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Wednesday, 01 July, 2009 - 03:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

By the way, UK suppliers offer the new original pins for about A$150, or polyurethane bushes for $50. If the pin is in good shape, the polyurethane ones beat all other options hands down on quality, behaviour and durability.

That's a far cry from the $500 or more I paid for the last one in 1985, and that was in 1985$. At least you can say that they are good for a very long life. That is with the proviso that you have no oil leaks whatsoever.

The story is even better with ball joints. Our R-R ones are adjustable, and dammit rebuildable with a new nylon bush for a song: both options almost unheard of for any other vehicle make.

My. How R-R spares prices have fallen through the floor. The last suspension bush I bought for my BMW cost around $700 just for the part. When I hear complaints about R-R spares prices these days, I am amused to think back to the sky-high prices we paid in the 1970s and 1980s by comparison. Today, we are unlucky if we pay Holden prices.

RT.
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Randy Roberson
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Post Number: 4
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Tuesday, 07 July, 2009 - 04:05 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Gentlemen, thanks for the great information. As the owner of the car in question seems not to be technically adept, after giving it some thought I believe perhaps the rubber bushing parts were "beginning to crack" (you know how rubber parts are, etc), esp. as he related that the technician said it could safely wait a while; I would not expect anyone would advise it could wait if it were the steel pins which were cracked. Perhaps this was even a barely veiled attempt to generate another repair job, do you think? Regards, Randy