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John Rowney
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Username: johnrowney

Post Number: 160
Registered: 02-2015
Posted on Friday, 10 November, 2023 - 15:35:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

The external temperature gauge on my 1978 Corniche DRH32489 has been playing up. It works occasionally, but mostly it indicates about -30 deg C (the lowest it can read).
In a moment of madness, I have taken off the radiator shell and looked at what I have got installed as the sensor.

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The sensor and the associated gizmo enscribed 7K1.

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Another view

The Sensor is a VDO device with the number 977.

I have looked at the Introcar and Flying Spares sites and there appears to be nothing resembling the system I have found. Does anyone have any idea of what I should do? Does anyone know what the gizmo labelled 7K1 actually is?

By the way: Now that I have pulled the radiator shell assembly off, the external temperature is reading perfectly!! Looks like I will have to reassemble everything before I get the dodgy temperatures again.
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Alan Dibley
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Username: alsdibley

Post Number: 390
Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Friday, 10 November, 2023 - 19:42:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

John, the temperature reads very low because there is a break in the two-wire circuit from meter to sensor and back. Twiddling the wiring while watching the result at the meter should find it - most probably at a connector. The environment around there is hostile to electrical connections.

HTH, Alan D.
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John Rowney
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Username: johnrowney

Post Number: 161
Registered: 02-2015
Posted on Wednesday, 15 November, 2023 - 10:36:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Thanks, Alan
I fiddled around with the connections and taped over the damaged covers, and the temperature reading remained exact. I also noticed that the gizmo labelled 7K1 had a hole in it corresponding to the hole in the bracket which holds the sensor. So I bolted it on and the wiring looked like it was originally in place there. I put the radiator shell back on and went for a spin for an hour or so - the temperature was perfect!
Many thanks for the suggestion. It would be interesting to find out what the 7K1 gizmo is. Perhaps it is part of a wheatstone bridge type of measuring system.
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John Rowney
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Username: johnrowney

Post Number: 168
Registered: 02-2015
Posted on Monday, 08 January, 2024 - 16:11:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

I drove the Corniche a few times since my last posting, and the external temperature behaved itself. However, around Christmas time it played up again - initially indicating about 10 deg C, then after a while dropped instantly to -30 deg C.

I took the radiator shell off again and fiddled with the connectors. At times I could get a decent reading, but with a bit of twiddling around the connector, I sometimes got it to work, and at times it failed. Obviously, like Alan's findings, the connector is the problem.

I took the sensor out and tested its resistance in ambient conditions (30 deg C) and hot water. As the temperature fell, the resistance increased. So this demonstrates that a poor connection would increase resistance and indicate very low temperatures.

I installed a new connection to the wire ex the gauge, used a new length of wire and new connection to sensor, taped everything up and everything now works well. I have put the radiator shell back on and I await some decent weather so I can take the car on a reasonable drive to verify everything is OK.

For the record, the sensor has the following markings around the hex section:
801/3/2
Germany
VDO
9.77
6-24V
120 deg C

I think that the 9.77 might refer to the month and year of manufacture, since the car is a 1978 model.

I will let you know how things go if we get any rain-free periods in the near future.
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John Rowney
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Username: johnrowney

Post Number: 169
Registered: 02-2015
Posted on Tuesday, 09 January, 2024 - 16:13:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

I went for a short spin to the beach and back (16 miles) in the Corniche with the hood down.

What a very pleasant drive and the external temperature measurement was spot on. Around 28 deg C.

Hopefully no more problems for a while. (Fingers crossed).

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