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Geoff Wootton
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Username: dounraey

Post Number: 2092
Registered: 5-2012
Posted on Friday, 03 May, 2019 - 01:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

I've just discovered a split in the right driveshaft boot. Part number is UG11121. It looks like Flying Spares is the best deal. I'm waiting for a quote from Albers, but I was wondering if there are any other sources in the US that I can check out before ordering the part.
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Robert J. Sprauer
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Username: wraithman

Post Number: 375
Registered: 11-2017
Posted on Friday, 03 May, 2019 - 09:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

That's about it. When you remove be aware of the buttons and the amount of shims under each side. The buttons remove from the round bar they are placed in. Keep the buttons off until the boot is in place. The boot is a real exercise with sliding it over the end.
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ross kowalski
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Username: cdfpw

Post Number: 1055
Registered: 11-2015
Posted on Saturday, 04 May, 2019 - 12:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Geoff,

The manual says press the pin out put the boot on and press the pin back in. After stretching one on you will see why. I put one on and it was pretty out there.

If there is someone who has done this you might want them around for moral or immoral support.
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Robert J. Sprauer
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Username: wraithman

Post Number: 381
Registered: 11-2017
Posted on Saturday, 04 May, 2019 - 12:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Here's what I did. I pressed out the pin. it's imperative it goes in and exactly centered. I then used a small plastic cone fashioned from a hard plastic bottle and put the cone end on the ball with a little silicone spray and it slid on with ease. Believe me I tried everything including using a long nose pliers to stretch the opening like forceps but the lightbulb went off and it was smooth sailing.
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Geoff Wootton
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Username: dounraey

Post Number: 2093
Registered: 5-2012
Posted on Saturday, 04 May, 2019 - 03:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Robert & Ross

Thanks for your replies and advice.

I've just received the quote from Albers at $87.49 which beats FS by 4 bucks at current exchange rates. Given the likely lower mail charges (I'm in the US), it looks like Albers have it.

I've read in previous threads about the difficulty in stretching the boot, even when softened in boiling water, so I will probably go for the "remove the pin" method, even though I have read dire warnings about doing so. I guess careful measurements will be the order of the day.

I was also quoted $10 and $4.25 for the large and small clamps (jubilee clips) respectively. From the parts manual it looks like these are just standard clamps that you can buy at much lower cost at Lowes, Home Depot or Autozone. If these substitutes are the same as the RR offering, then it seems pointless paying the extra. Does anyone know if there is anything special about the RR clamps. I'm thinking in terms of balance on a fast rotating driveshaft.
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David Gore
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Username: david_gore

Post Number: 3265
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Saturday, 04 May, 2019 - 06:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Geoff,

I went the "push-out" route after trying the hot water soak before attempting to work the boot over the pin and failing as I had serious doubts whether the boot was capable of stretching any further without splitting. I don't know how long the boots had been sitting on the shelf before I purchased them however my experience suggests it had been some time.

Had already purchased a 50 ton hydraulic press for separating the rear drive yokes from the hub half-shafts [misguided as future final separation required a 200 ton press to overcome corrosion "welding" of the two items from salt road de-icing in its first home in Yorkshire]. This press easily pushed out the drive shaft pins and I made up a sleeve from steel water pipe to put over the pin and stop the ram when the pin was dead-centre on the drive shaft. This worked perfectly and the pins were accurate to within 0.002".

Geoff, use commercial stainless steel jubilee clips and not galvanised steel as they will be a fraction lighter also position the screw portions of the large and small clip at 180deg apart to reduce any imbalance.

The initial reason for pulling the rear drive apart was to replace the wheel bearings which had failed from corrosion caused by "salty" water from road de-icing that had leaked past the original felt seals [these were replaced by the factory replacement lip seal kit as part of the repair].

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Patrick Lockyer.
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Username: pat_lockyer

Post Number: 2132
Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Saturday, 04 May, 2019 - 09:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Well this is an example of folk using the manual and not there head!
The workshop manual can be a work around to make some jobs much more difficult to stop the DIY with costly outcome [vibration etc].
Doing the job the easy way the boots will stretch and save hours of needless work.
Did mine the proper engineers quick way:
http://au.rrforums.net/forum/messages/17001/29581.html?1512663326
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ross kowalski
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Username: cdfpw

Post Number: 1063
Registered: 11-2015
Posted on Sunday, 05 May, 2019 - 07:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Patrick,

I just used the sun and lots of stretching. Your modded cv boot stretcher would make things easier.

I remember thinking that is was not possible the entire time I was installing the boot.

If I have to do it again I might consider the pin. I mean really, you just need to center it. A big lathe, a dial, and a lead mallet would seem like the tools.
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Robert J. Sprauer
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Username: wraithman

Post Number: 388
Registered: 11-2017
Posted on Sunday, 05 May, 2019 - 08:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

The pin is interference and not much is needed to knock it thru. A press is recommended because it is more gentle and controlled over a hammer.
No need to heat it or the fear of ripping it. Believe me I looked at this and said no way and pressed out the pin and minutes later the boot was on with my cone method.
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Geoff Wootton
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Username: dounraey

Post Number: 2095
Registered: 5-2012
Posted on Sunday, 05 May, 2019 - 03:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Thanks for all the help. That link that Patrick gave is very useful. I order the part on Monday so plenty of time to decide which method I will use.

Thanks again
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ross kowalski
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Username: cdfpw

Post Number: 1065
Registered: 11-2015
Posted on Sunday, 05 May, 2019 - 10:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Robert,

Just to be clear there, I was including the hammer for centering the pin, not extracting it.

I would think that is a press only job.

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