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Patrick Lockyer.
Grand Master
Username: pat_lockyer

Post Number: 1990
Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Friday, 26 October, 2018 - 04:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Last time used the starter would not be as quick to engage a job to check one day.

To day thought about some tests with the cooling system.

Turn the key and just a click and more clicks, then the starter motor works.
keeping the engine running to put the car up off the ground.
Convinced the motor has given up as it is still the original, so no tests carried out on the solenoid or motor, disconnect the batt lead and start to remove starter leads.

7/16" nut not as tight as it should have been so removed to see possible fault.





Will remove all the connecters and clean to-morrow,

While up in the air some pixs of the tow bar.



Hope it will be just a failed connection.
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h_kelly
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Username: h_kelly

Post Number: 268
Registered: 3-2012
Posted on Friday, 26 October, 2018 - 04:49 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Pat, a good old sanding and you be as right as rain.ie sand nut, cable connector and spring washer, you might consider doing same to upper nut /connector.Had similar situation with the old Shadow 1 , the above rectified situation for a time.
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Larry Kavanagh
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Username: shadow_11

Post Number: 244
Registered: 5-2016
Posted on Friday, 26 October, 2018 - 05:12 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

While you're at it check all the earth strap connections, they tend to suffer from corrosion too and can cause the starter to be lazy.
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Robert J. Sprauer
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Username: wraithman

Post Number: 72
Registered: 11-2017
Posted on Friday, 26 October, 2018 - 10:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

If you sand it you will most likely remove the cad coating and it will corrode alot easier. Why not replace with fresh hardware and coat with waterproof grease.
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Paul Yorke
Grand Master
Username: paul_yorke

Post Number: 2077
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Friday, 26 October, 2018 - 04:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Fit a new nut and spring washer.


The spring washers tend to get weak over time causing a poor connection which then overheats.

This cooks the plating off and they rust heavily.

It's a common problem.

You can usually see signs of arcing on them.

A good place to FTP though :-)
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Patrick Lockyer.
Grand Master
Username: pat_lockyer

Post Number: 1992
Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Friday, 26 October, 2018 - 08:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Job done, removed tother nut and washer cleaned all contact areas and threads with dremal.




Coated with high temp cooper grease on assembly.

Used n/cad nut that is twice as thick as the original with cad plated flat washer no spring as IMO this is the real cause of fault.

Now the Lucas starter spins just like new!

First time the car stayed out in the rain for years!

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Mark Aldridge
Grand Master
Username: mark_aldridge

Post Number: 569
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Friday, 26 October, 2018 - 10:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Patrick, what type of lift do you have ? I am considering a lift to use outside at home. I am getting reluctant to crawl under cars !
Mark
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Patrick Lockyer.
Grand Master
Username: pat_lockyer

Post Number: 1993
Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Saturday, 27 October, 2018 - 05:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Mark, some old pixs, the lift is an old Omer concord 35 free standing.
Located outside for the quick jobs!

Have the controls in a small enclosure by the side, the lift has a height of over 6ft.
hydraulic electric with position locks for the required working height operated by air.



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