Post Number: 43
|Posted on Sunday, 27 November, 2016 - 05:34 am: |
Has anyone transplanted late model Silver Shadow seat belts into an early car? My definition of early is Tootsie, SRX6816, a 1969 model. Her shoulder straps are separate from her lap belts and fixed. E.g. not especially convenient and thus, I find myself just using the shoulder belts. This will be a problem if I'm involved in an accident.
More modern 3-point systems, with a reel at floor level, would be a nice enhancement in my view. Anyway, I'm thinking the holes and reinforcement plates are there, and Crew likely used same for later version of the automobiles. Thus, while I'm a purist in terms of making irrevocable changes, this only holds true up to the point where safety enters the equation. Since I place a rather high value on my fat ass, I'm wondering if anyone may have information to shed light on the latest Silver Shadow from which I can reasonably expect to find suitable donor seat belts that would be a bolt in?
Post Number: 32
|Posted on Sunday, 27 November, 2016 - 08:28 pm: |
The reels on the shoulder belts on SBH10630 are bolted to the rear shelf using the bolts that should be used on your vehicle, I think?? Any later belts should fit, therefore (again with a couple of question marks)??
Post Number: 1685
|Posted on Sunday, 27 November, 2016 - 09:57 pm: |
John, Are you talking about front or rear belts?
Can you post a couple of pictures please.
From memory even the early shadows had inertia reel mountings (in the sill) for front belts so if that is what you are trying to achieve it should be possible.
Reproduction coloured period webbing and chrome buckles are also available with modern inertia reel fittings. Much prettier and in keeping for the older cars.
Feel free to give me a shout if you'd like more details. I will also have used shadow sets in stock if that is the way you'd prefer to go.
Post Number: 62
|Posted on Monday, 28 November, 2016 - 03:43 am: |
Hi Paul and Alan,
Many thanks for making time to respond, I appreciate it. I should have been more clear in my initial post. My interest is in both front and rear safety belts - but principally the front as I cannot remember the last time I carried back seat passengers other than a child safety seat, which is secured perfectly with only a lap belt.
Tootsie's front seats have an inertia-reel for the lap and 'feature' old fashioned fixed belts for the shoulders. Yes, two separate and distinct systems to fasten and release each time I enter and exit the car (pain in the hind quarters).
- Two separate and distinct safety belt systems - rubbish!
Frankly, using these separate systems is something of a nuisance and it would be a 'great' enhancement in my view to replace the upper belt with a turnaround loop such that a single reel in the sill with a belt rising vertically to the loop from the sill would serve - as they do in today's cars - thus securing the user across both the lap and shoulder with one motion. I have seen drawings and photos of these for the front of the later vintage Silver Shadow, perhaps late Shadow II?
As for the rear, it would be great to also use a similar inertia-reel system (versus the lap-only set up) however, presently there are three lap-only safety belts - none on reels - installed in the car. And nothing already existing at the parcel shelf for the shoulder attach points. Thus, I rather suspect these won't happen (or not easily) but first, let's see what develops.
Post Number: 713
|Posted on Monday, 28 November, 2016 - 06:38 am: |
I can see why that is a pain.
Mine has factory fitted retractable front belts, with great hide trimmed stalk covers emanating from the tail shaft hump.
Rear belts were fitted later I think.
I do have this plate under the bonnet.
Post Number: 1687
|Posted on Monday, 28 November, 2016 - 10:44 am: |
I have never seen belts like that fitted. I think it must have been owned by a couple - one hating shoulders belts, the other insisting on one.
You will need to strip back the carpet at the bottom of the B post to see what is there.
Hopefully a plate held down with about 10 x 7/16 bolts.
You will need to remove the plate and check inside the sill cavity for brackets etc.
I'm pretty sure that they were very similar right the way through the Shadows.