| Author | Message | ||
     Alan Scard New User Username: alanscard Post Number: 2 Registered: 7-2015 |
Ref. 1972 Shadow 1 SRH 13952. Does anyone know of a filter manufactures p/n for the main fuel filter. Looking at the workshop manual the picture shows a Purolator MFF 377. I cannot find this number in my 1996/97 Purolator catalogue. The Rolls p/n is CD 4299 but at over £30 Sterling seems expensive. As Beaulieu Autojumble is coming up in a few weeks time, if I can find some alternative p/n's I may be able to pick up a bargain | ||
| Robert Noel Reddington Grand Master Username: bob_uk Post Number: 470 Registered: 5-2015 |
Alan, If you are using UK petrol or similiar quality petrol then this filter is not required. There is a filter in the tank which is cleaned by removing the drain plug. The fuel pump has a filters and both carbs have filters. I took my filter out and it was clean so I put it back. I have had this car for 26 years. SU fuel pumps require a free flowing feed. If the feed is obstructed it will cause the pumps solenoid to be energised to long which can eventually burn out something. The solenoid draws the petrol from the tank and the spring pushes the fuel to the carbs. The solenoid does not push the fuel. This means that this filter must be clean and free flowing. If a replacement cannot be found then leave the filter element out. Be careful fitting something that is not correct because of flow. Because petrol is now flowing into a void it slows down this causes dirt to drop out and stay at the bottom of the now empty filter can. Note if you decide to remove the whole filter and re plumb direct. Then keep the parts removed because Shadows are increasing in value and originality is going to be an important factor in the value. | ||
| Randy Roberson Grand Master Username: wascator Post Number: 503 Registered: 5-2009 |
Both my Cars (1970 and 1977) use the Crossland 444 element. I was searching for a source at lower cost, and learned the Purolator housing for this filter was widely used on oil furnaces in the UK. Some of the plumbing supply businesses in the UK still offer them; one recent web page offered them at L6.80. I hope this helps you. | ||
| Brian Vogel Grand Master Username: guyslp Post Number: 1637 Registered: 6-2009 |
Randy, If you know of a source that actually has these in stock please do post it. I long ago learned that UK HVAC companies that deal with oil heat list them in their online catalogs, but every time I've ever tried to order them they have been "not in stock" and with absolutely no projected availability date. Since there are two additional fuel filters just upstream of the carbs I don't worry too terribly much about the main fuel filter, but it would be nice to have a confirmed source. They were even "made of unobtainium" from Crewe Original sources the last time I tried to find any. Brian | ||
| Bob Reynolds Grand Master Username: bobreynolds Post Number: 334 Registered: 8-2012 |
£30 for the proper filter which you only need to change every 20 years or so doesn't seem that expensive to me. Help to keep the genuine one on the market. | ||
| Brian Vogel Grand Master Username: guyslp Post Number: 1638 Registered: 6-2009 |
Bob, The one that was available as a fuel oil filter is/was a genuine Crosland 444. Sorry, but I don't think the Crewe Original markup is in any way worth paying. Brian | ||
| Geoff Wootton Grand Master Username: dounraey Post Number: 941 Registered: 5-2012 |
It looks to me the Flying Spares filter has been specially manufactured. I have no idea if this is true, but if so, the small number of sales mean they are offering it as a service to owners, at around 30 ukp. The filter comes with two rubber seals. Always good to replace these also. I did have a look round for a Crossland 444 before buying mine from FS. Like Brian, I found the 444 to be made of unobtainium. I do agree with Bob though. 30 ukp is very reasonable for a part that will last 20 years. I was pleased with the FS offering - the seals and filter were a perfect fit. Here is a pic of the two filters, minus the seals. The FS one is on the right of the picture:  Geoff | ||
| Alan Scard New User Username: alanscard Post Number: 3 Registered: 7-2015 |
Many thanks for all the responses. In looking at my 1996/97 AlliedSignal Coopers Filters catalogue the Purolator MFF377A = Coopers AZF826. The Crossland 444 = Coopers AZF826. | ||
| Mark Aldridge Prolific User Username: mark_aldridge Post Number: 248 Registered: 10-2008 |
These filters have been difficult for some years. I fitted the complete filter assembly from a Spirit ( pre 20000 series ) some years ago to my Shadow. This is a straight swap and uses a common , easy to obtain filter, approx. £5 each. Mark | ||
| Nigel Johnson Prolific User Username: nigel_johnson Post Number: 146 Registered: 12-2008 |
My Spirit is so early (ACH01253) it uses the Shadow filter. Those poor lads at Flying Spares struggle to get their heads round it sometimes. But all gets sorted in the end. Regards, Nigel. Mark, do you think we can all get together sometime? | ||
| Mark Aldridge Prolific User Username: mark_aldridge Post Number: 249 Registered: 10-2008 |
Hi Nigel, Sounds a good idea., Dick writes in on this site occasionally.Any other UK members wish to join us ? Mark | ||
| richard george yeaman Grand Master Username: richyrich Post Number: 351 Registered: 4-2012 |
That sounds like a good idea I would put my name forward as an interested UK member just need someone with organising skills to put it together. Richard. | ||
| David Gore Moderator Username: david_gore Post Number: 1734 Registered: 4-2003 |
Members who joined us from the RRBEW Forum will be aware several successful UK get-togethers were organised through that forum for those who could reach the venue. It is rewarding to see this tradition continuing using our forum as the means of communication. Perhaps some of our members visiting the UK at the time might also be able to attend if sufficient notice is given. |
