| Author | Message | ||
     gef briggs Unregistered guest Posted From: 147.109.250.24 |
hello forum, the telescopic shock absorbers are finished for this life in the shadow and need replacing. i sourced a pair of shocks in south aust. genuine ones. $3,000+ freight etc. for the pair. nice i thought to have a genuine velvet lined r-r cardboard box but surely there is some generic teles out there without the cardboard box and velvet lining. gef gdaytassydevil@yahoo.com.au | ||
| Bill Coburn Grand Master Username: bill_coburn Post Number: 237 Registered: 4-2003 |
gef I replaced the front dampers on the Spur some 8 months ago for under a thousand dollars and that was with genuine units from the Sydney agents. You can get Boge from the local suspension houses which seem to be OK for a bit over $700 for the pair. | ||
| Richard Treacy Grand Master Username: richard_treacy Post Number: 328 Registered: 4-2003 |
Bilstein are the way to go. http://www.serve.com/alleuro/steinrol.htm Contact them in Oz. http://www.heasmans.com.au/bilstein/assets/pdf/Bilstein_Shocks.pdf They make shock absorbers especially for your car, and are very highly regarded. Expect to pay less than A$400 per shock absorber. german http://www.bilstein.de/index2.htm The UK outlets are asking A$500 each for genuine Crewe shock absorbers, plus tax and shipping. | ||
| David Gore Moderator Username: david_gore Post Number: 281 Registered: 4-2003 |
Hi Gef, Also suggest one of our contributors who is too modest to promote his own business is worth contacting [hope you do not mind Robert!!!!]. Robert Chapman at R.A. Chapman Automotive has a highly regarded range of suspension parts and repairable shock absorbers for Shadows which should also be considered. Go to the following website for more information: http://www.rachapmanautomotive.com.au/ | ||
| Larry Unregistered guest Posted From: 68.195.74.199 |
Are those 1429, and 1430 Bilstein shocks only for Shadows? Or would they work in my '89 Spur? Do the rears work seamlessly with LHM & the height control system? Larry tbird@consultant.com Bilstein Shocks for Rolls Royce Part Number--Description--Retail--Your Cost B46-1429--FRONT SHOCK HD-$359.00--$217.96 B46-1430----REAR SHOCK---$259.00--$153.60 | ||
| Richard Treacy Grand Master Username: richard_treacy Post Number: 329 Registered: 4-2003 |
Larry, If your Spur (or any other SZ) does not have active ride, then the front shock absorbers are identical to a Shadow's. According to most literature, Bilsteins are by far the preferred product for both models. The rear ones are completely different: SZs have struts, not shock absorbers like on a Shadow. SZ rear damping is carried out by the spheres and valves. ps: you can see that I was being very conservative with cost estimates for the shock absorbers. They should not break the bank. | ||
| Bob UK Unregistered guest Posted From: 80.4.224.6 |
If you go to a web site such autoparts warehouse. They give the part numbers of the various components. for example Boge L4000 front dampers for Shadows are $350 USA However once you have the number any Boge dealer should be able to help and these numbers can be cross referenced. Also once you have the specifications of the damper a Race car shop can usually help. My local race shop has a large selection of adjustable dampers which cost less than $350 USA. It is also possible to overhaul dampers using specialist equipment. | ||
| gef briggs Unregistered guest Posted From: 203.52.130.136 |
hello forum, thanks to everyone for their kind help, certainly saved a lot of effort. well the engine is no longer mictuarating(thanks bill nice way of saying.......) and chapman automotive in vic. tells me monroe shocks #66923 $130ea fit installed the oposite way to r-r practice. also larry in usa has a workshop manual for the silver shadow 1 on c.d. for u.$.36.75 .gratefully yours everyone gef from tasmania gdaytassydevil@yahoo.com.au | ||
| John Dare Unregistered guest Posted From: 144.138.194.197 |
I "discovered" the Monroe (inverted orientation) "secret" during a visit the USA. Irrespective of the brand/type which you eventually choose, it it gratifying to see this forum working as it should. By helping people. | ||
| Larry Unregistered guest Posted From: 68.195.74.199 |
Richard (or anyone), Does any company make those SZ rear struts other than Crewe (boge)? Is there a part number? Prices? Yes, being an '89 it does not have active ride, and is a 20,000 series. Larry | ||
| Richard Treacy Grand Master Username: richard_treacy Post Number: 331 Registered: 4-2003 |
Larry, I have no idea which company supplies Crewe with the rear struts, and have never removed one to see any trademark. The most I have done is to replace the rubber boot at the bottom of mine. However, I doubt that there is an alternative supplier even though Crewe may have multi-sourced them. Sub suppliers rarely sell direct to retail customers, and these struts are surely specific to Crewe, and to SZ cars only. Has anyone heard of a failure ? They seem to be unbelievably reliable, and I personally would be quite happy to fit a secondhand one if the need arises. There are plenty available at very reasonable prices. Bear in mind that there are three pre-active ride types though. Yours is RH3377. | ||
| Larry Unregistered guest Posted From: 68.195.74.199 |
Well, I'm just doing pre-research. My left strut is fine and the shaft is bone dry, but the right seems to be sweating a slight bit on the shaft. Touching it seems oily. It takes a good while, but it eventually makes the lower rubber bushing moist. I notice no difference in performance or height control/evenness, or loss of fluid in the reservoir (yet). This is going on since I own the car - about 2 years. Larry | ||
| Dwayne Kennemore Frequent User Username: dkennemo Post Number: 17 Registered: 12-2003 |
Excuse me, but do I understand you correctly? A 66923 Monroe shock fitted upside down will sub for the originals on a Silver Shadow I? Is that both front and back? My Silver Shadow has required replacements for some time and it would be great if this were the case! | ||
| Larry Halpert Frequent User Username: larry_halpert Post Number: 21 Registered: 9-2003 |
Well, I got my new rear strut. The unit is marked SACHS 74 2400 126 070, and in emailing Sachs/Boge, it is listed only for Rolls. Re-order/Boge number is 46-800-0, which I haven't found either in any cross reference. This 20,000 series rear strut cost me a whopping $355US with green tube and bushings. Oh well..  Next on the list is my fan is not free wheeling when the engine starts, or shuts down. Cold or Hot. I think the fan clutch is stuck on. I'd love to learn if its only available as a Rolls part, or if it has a cross reference. So far, I'm finding nothing on the web. | ||
| Bill Coburn Grand Master Username: bill_coburn Post Number: 259 Registered: 4-2003 |
I believe BMW have a very similar item that fits you may care to check. | ||
| Miguel A. Garcia Prolific User Username: magarcia Post Number: 113 Registered: 3-2005 |
Hello, Last week one of the rear chockabsorbers keep broken. Not the shockabsorber itself, but the end-top steel piece that suports it in the under-car suport, what made the full steel bar touch the floor. I mean the piece that is stamped in the steel bar of the shockabsorber, I hope you know what piece i mean...I did a self done home repair and orderer a pair of rear Bilstein B46-1430 for my Shadow I for 199 UK Pounds each at Introcar for taking advance to the time. After receive them bring the car to a Shock abrsorebr specialist in Madrid. One day after, he called me telling me that the rear tubes of the rear levelling where so rusty, that was a high risk of broken them whil unscrewing and disconecting them, so by the moment, they just rebuilt the broken low support and keep the car in the same situation that it was before and told me that in the nexts weeks he will repair the car with more time. In my car, self levelling in the rears does not work, I am sure about it, but i do not know if the level goes til the rear and is bloked there or would be blocked in a previous area. Personally, i think that what happened is that they where not sure about how to do, because i know they where confused about the standar gas shockabsorbers how would they work with self levcelling. I told them that it was independant, that with absolutelly certain, these shock aborbers were the right ones fort this car, but they discussed me that it was not possible, that the car needs other special absorbers taht supports them selves the selflevelling system. So actually i keep at the hand a pair of new bilstein and no one that can put them. Does any one or website has a visual step by step explanatory instructions or procedure about this task? I would show it to these people to do the work!! Thank you again! | ||
| Richard Treacy Grand Master Username: richard_treacy Post Number: 1033 Registered: 4-2003 |
Time you bought a workshop manual my friend. For now, find it here: http://homepage.swissonline.ch/Richard_Treacy/PaintCodes/ShockAbsorbers.pdf | ||
| Larry Halpert Prolific User Username: larry_halpert Post Number: 89 Registered: 9-2003 |
Hi Miguel, I have the full 5 volume workshop manual set on CD available for your Shadow showing step by step procedures, etc. Email me here if interested: tbird@consultant.com Larry http://www.rrbew.co.uk/tbird-0.htm | ||
| Miguel A. Garcia Prolific User Username: magarcia Post Number: 114 Registered: 3-2005 |
Richard, Larry, thank you a lot for the replyes! I have yet the 5 volumes on CD wich i bought on Ebay last year, but the section that covers the rear shock absorbers is DIFFERENT that the one that Richard shows here!! Different text. The Richardīs one is more complet and descriptive!! I think that looks to be different editions available, as my spanish friend Julian, from San Clemente tolds me also that some chapters about electric system where different on his CDīs set that on mine! Thank you all. |
