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Brian Vogel
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Username: guyslp

Post Number: 77
Registered: 6-2009
Posted on Sunday, 10 June, 2012 - 01:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Hello All,

I have had great success (and, oddly, relative ease) in taking the accumulator control valve apart. These things are much simpler than I had anticipated. The trick is not in the rebuilding but in getting the *%&^%* things out of the car!

I have managed to get the whole thing apart with a single exception. Step 4 in the dismantling instructions reads:

Remove the sealing disc, non-return valve, and the return spring from the smaller bore of the bobbin. (See Fig. G12) [See PDF page 4 in Chapter G7 for RR363 Systems #7 is the non-return valve]

The spring falls right out, but that non-return valve does not. I tried inserting a wire post and pushing, gently, from the end opposite the spring where there is a hole in an effort to get it to come out. I stopped very quickly when it became obvious this particular method was not going to work and I might damage something.

In looking at the diagram above it appears that the hole that serves as the fluid passage to this non-return valve narrows significantly where the fluid passes through. I am still presuming one must use a "pusher" of some sort to get this thing to come out, but it probably has to be a rod that's quite thin.

If any one has a "pusher of choice" that's successful, or can inform me that I'm entirely off-base and tell me how one should actually get this thing removed, I would love to hear about the pusher or the alternate technique.

Brian
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Brian Vogel
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Username: guyslp

Post Number: 79
Registered: 6-2009
Posted on Monday, 11 June, 2012 - 12:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

To follow up on my own post, I got the suggestion from someone on the U.S. forums to use compressed or canned air to pop that non-return valve out, and it worked like a charm.

I used a can of "computer keyboard cleaning" air and a bowl lined with a paper napkin for the expected projectile. One quick blast with the straw inserted into the tube at the end opposite the return spring and the non-return valve shot right out.

Since there's a small plastic or fluon part on the end of this valve on the end opposite the spring using air to push it makes sense to prevent damage.

Brian
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Jeff Young
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Post Number: 82
Registered: 10-2010
Posted on Tuesday, 12 June, 2012 - 03:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Thanks for posting the solution, Brian.

Cheers,
Jeff.
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Brian Vogel
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Username: guyslp

Post Number: 80
Registered: 6-2009
Posted on Tuesday, 12 June, 2012 - 08:07 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Jeff,

You're quite welcome. I always try to post the answers to my own questions if they come to me from an off-forums source. These forums are one of the best sources of reliable information out there for those of us who are DIY Rolls-Royce and/or Bentley mechanics.

As an aside, you could probably use a pusher that was a long piece of thick-ish wire, or a sail-making needle, as long as the pushing end of either is filed off to a blunt tip. The end of the non-return valve that gets pushed upon, whether by air or something mechanical, is made of some plastic-like substance (probably fluon [ETFE]) and could be very easily damaged with rough handling. This piece also looks as if someone put a pin hole in its very center, and this is the same in both of the valve bobbins I've had apart. However, it's not so fragile that a gentle nudge with a non-pointed object should hurt anything. If you're in a situation without compressed or canned air it helps to have a reasonable "Plan B".

Brian