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Nigel Ralph
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Posted From: 203.87.65.99
Posted on Thursday, 03 June, 2004 - 07:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

I have had slow electric windows for some time and today while driving into town, the rear passenger window slowly opened by itself and I was unable to raise it. How does one get the trim off to check the electrics? I also need to redo the woodwork. Have you any suggestions? I'm from the Whitsundays in Nth Qld. A shire of 18 000 inhabitants and no RR mechanics.
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Bill Coburn
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Username: bill_coburn

Post Number: 164
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Thursday, 03 June, 2004 - 09:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Nigel Can I be my usual facetious self and ask was it a Toyota you were driving or if it was a Rolls-Royce was it one of numerous post war models that have/had electric window lifts? We are not clairvoyant my friend!
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Richard Treacy
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Username: richard_treacy

Post Number: 204
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Thursday, 03 June, 2004 - 11:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Bill, it is titled 1974 Shadow SRH 18294.

To remove the trim, prise off the covers in the middle of the window switch and door handle bezels, unscrew the bezels themselves, and the trim simply comes off with a pull.

Once the trim is off, removing the woodwork is simple. There are four screws obvious just beneath the wood itself, and another behind the door seal at the front edge of the door.
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Bill Coburn
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Post Number: 165
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Friday, 04 June, 2004 - 10:28 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Nigel (and Richard)

Sorry, both age and eyesight fail me. My apologies. The testy factor is becomming dominant. Richard you will be pleased to know that your window scheme is being resorted to yet again with the '87 Spirit. Interesting with the Burgess switches. I have finally woken up to the RR special which uses a made to order (apparently) V3 switch with two screw fittings and one spade fitting. The difference being some 50 dollars per switch.
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Richard Treacy
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Username: richard_treacy

Post Number: 205
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Friday, 04 June, 2004 - 05:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Bill,

Microswitches for window lifts.

I simply use a DC duty industrial microswitch with spade connectors. AC switches are not OK unless the relay mod has been carried out. For the screw fittings, I simply cut the spade connector to length, drill a small hole, and use a self tapping screw. Cost $1. There are many brands, but Burgess certainly have been dominant for years, and are available at George Brown in Whyalla St, Fyshwick, although I am sure L&T stock them too.

I priced an assembled pair here from the Crewe outlet for fun: over $290 plus GST (we call it MWSt). I don't like to skimp, but a price ratio of 150 is a bit too hard to swallow, so I always use the cheaper but better industrial switches.
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Bill Coburn
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Username: bill_coburn

Post Number: 166
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Friday, 04 June, 2004 - 07:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Thanks Richard. In the event as it is not my pocket I opted for the genuine. These are separate and need to be installed in their little holders. Better still they were in my box the next morning. I actually got the switches used in the passengers' doors from a wholesaler in F/W for a very small price. They are made in Mexico of all places and according to the users are quite satisfactory.
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Nigel Ralph
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Posted From: 203.87.62.113
Posted on Friday, 02 July, 2004 - 09:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Many thanks Richard. After writing my request for info I discovered the Search feature on the web page and located your mail to Serge Pontes. Quite easy after that. What had happened is the bolt through the window lift had come out. I understand your facetiousness Bill but sometimes learners take a little while to become completely familiar with a new system. The web site is great and I have recently changed the rear springs following your directions to Peter Senn. David Gore had suggested this in direct correspondence I had had with him.
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Bill Coburn
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Username: bill_coburn

Post Number: 191
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Friday, 02 July, 2004 - 04:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Ah Nigel you are too forgiving.I love the questions that go 'I have a Rolls-Royce and it has something wrong with it what should I do'. In my more temperate moments I have actually tried to answer these sallies and then having spent a considerable time with options methods etc never hear what happened or dare I mention it, get a thank you. I think though that this is a great forum peopled by enthusiasts. There are two other groups in this world it seems, owners who are most concerned about what their car says about them and owners or repairers that are determined to keep any knowledge to themselves for reasons one can only speculate on.
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John Dare
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Posted From: 144.138.194.144
Posted on Saturday, 03 July, 2004 - 04:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Quite so in relation to the latter group/s who appear determined to keep any knowledge (which they claim to possess) to themselves in order to protect and nuture "The Great Myth". Mind you, given their so-called "knowledge", it is probably a good thing that they DO keep it to themselves. Indeed, I recall one world "authority" being once asked how he had acquired his specialist "knowledge" to which he responded "It just came to me". He didnt laugh when he said so, but I did!
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whunter
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Username: whunter

Post Number: 69
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Saturday, 03 July, 2004 - 05:33 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Hmmm.
I find three types of RR & B in the world.
#1. Garage trophies.
#2. Daily drivers.
#3. Butchered chaises.

Owners are all interesting people.
I saw a garage trophy last month; it has not been on the road since 1972, and it was not stored correctly, very sad.
The owner was asking my opinion of cost to put it back on the road.
When I gave him an honest answer, he ordered me off his property.
I should have referred him to someone else for an appraisal.