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Barry Brears
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Username: turney_2009

Post Number: 83
Registered: 8-2009
Posted on Tuesday, 07 December, 2010 - 06:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Bentley T1 SBH 17291.You are not going to beleive this but my starter motor has jammed and I can't unjam it,so it means off to the Auto Electrician.Now the S.M. be it stuffed and parts unable to get then a new one would be the go I see from previous posts Nippondenso is reccomended if so does anyone have a model or part number please.
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Paul Yorke
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Username: paul_yorke

Post Number: 700
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Tuesday, 07 December, 2010 - 06:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

I guesws you've turned the engine over by hand and made sure that the battery is in perfect condition?

Nippondenso is definately the way forward ~ Sorry but I don't know where you'd get one out there.
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Barry Brears
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Username: turney_2009

Post Number: 84
Registered: 8-2009
Posted on Tuesday, 07 December, 2010 - 06:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Hi Paul,Yes mate done all of that a model number for the Nippondenso would be good I'm sure the number would appply out here.

Barry
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Brian Crump
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Username: brian_crump

Post Number: 92
Registered: 2-2007
Posted on Tuesday, 07 December, 2010 - 06:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Barry - you may like to have a look in the Club's Glove Box directory and you will find people whom I know to be fitting Nippondenso starter motors to all types of vehicles - including a Ghost or so...
http://nsw.rroc.org.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsection&id=10&Itemid=61
You don't need to be a member to view the Directory - but there is also a membership application available if you navigate around the site.
Regards,
Brian Crump

(Message edited by brian_crump on 07 December 2010)
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Bill Coburn
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Username: bill_coburn

Post Number: 1289
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Tuesday, 07 December, 2010 - 11:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Barry/ The Nippondenso starter is available from R A Chapman in Melbourne. Give him a call and have your chassis number ready along with your credit card. The Nippon is just so much an improvement.

03 9729 3997 is the number
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Jan Forrest
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Username: got_one

Post Number: 170
Registered: 1-2008
Posted on Wednesday, 08 December, 2010 - 02:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Barry, are you sure that the motor has jammed and just isn't playing up? There's a tendency for engine oil, dripping from a warped gasket in the tappet cover on that side, to gunge up the power lead & earth contacts on the solenoid. When it happened to me I just removed them, cleaned them up and returned them to fix the starting problem. To prevent it happening again I also wrapped the solenoid in plastic so that I can replace the offending gasket at a later date (when the snow drifts have melted - some time next Spring!)
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Richard Treacy
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Username: richard_treacy

Post Number: 2268
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Wednesday, 08 December, 2010 - 01:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

The Nippondenso starter is not entirely generic, and is made especially for Crewe. I must say that I am not at all convinced about the hype.

The Crewe part number for the best Nippondenso starter to fit your car is UE46348. That’s the 3-bolt starter as originally fitted to the 20,000-series SZ cars. It has a 3.2HP motor, uprated for the original 2.6HP starter with the same part number.

There are aftermarket ones available, but they usually have a much smaller electric motor and a greater gear reduction to compensate. They have a specially-made mounting plate to suit Crewe cars. http://www.britishstarters.com/ will sell you one for US$295. It has a 1.9HP motor and a greater gear reduction than the Crewe item. It works OK, but you have to let go of the key in a hurry or the engine quickly overruns the starter speed once the engine fires. Cheap, but poor value for money.

I have a http://www.britishstarters.com/ animal in my Turbo R but regret it for the above reasons. The guy who runs the outfit promised me a year ago that he would find a 3.2HP motor to adapt, but I am still waiting. Promises, promises. As a result, I have just bought a brand-new genuine UE46348 from the UK to fit when I can be bothered, as the steering rack needs to be dropped on my car to fit it. The /www.britishstarters.com/ will then be a spare for the Turbo R or T-Series. I won’t touch an aftermarket one again.

Also, my experience with the Lucas starters is better than with the Nippondenso. People will disagree with me I know, but my last Nippondenso, the original in my Turbo R, dropped its guts completely without warning a few years ago. The Lucas motors don’t do that, and are readily repairable. Everyone swears by a Nippondenso, but to me it is at best an even bet. The Lucas starter in our T has never missed a beat, nor has the 56-year-old and 400,000-mile Lucas starter in my R-Type. Sure, the Nippondenso will start with a practically flat battery, but tends to lock in when the battery is too low. The Lucas will also lock in as yours has, but again is often the result of a low battery.

Old junked Nippondenso on the left. Britishstarters.com on the right


Schrapnel from my dud Nippondenso.
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Richard Treacy
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Username: richard_treacy

Post Number: 2269
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Wednesday, 08 December, 2010 - 02:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Old junked Nippondenso on the left. Britishstarters.com on the right


Schrapnel from my dud Nippondenso. Looks like Batam Island after an A380 flew by with Trent 900 engines.