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 Mark Aldridge
 Prolific User
 Username: mark_aldridge
 
 Post Number: 134
 Registered: 10-2008
 
 | | Posted on Wednesday, 21 May, 2014 - 19:32: |    | 
 Had the car MOT tested yesterday. The examiner commented on slight lift on the nearside kingpin,compared to the offside, but no sideways play.Is this lift adjustable ? Any advice greatfully received.
 Mark
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 David Hughes
 Experienced User
 Username: wedcar
 
 Post Number: 42
 Registered: 7-2004
 
 | | Posted on Thursday, 22 May, 2014 - 14:23: |    | 
 Hello Mark
 Pages 11 and 12 of the Suspension section of the Workshop manual on the RROCA website details the stub axle, "pivot pin" and bearings, with good exploded drawings. These parts are renewable if worn not adjustable.
 Regards
 David
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 David Hughes
 Experienced User
 Username: wedcar
 
 Post Number: 43
 Registered: 7-2004
 
 | | Posted on Thursday, 22 May, 2014 - 17:22: |    | 
 Hello Mark
 An addition to the above, you mention the lift, this is probably the, up to 0.007", permissible "end float". If more than this a new thrust washer must be fitted.
 The text in the manual explains it well.
 Regards
 David
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 Mark Aldridge
 Prolific User
 Username: mark_aldridge
 
 Post Number: 135
 Registered: 10-2008
 
 | | Posted on Thursday, 22 May, 2014 - 19:16: |    | 
 Thanks David, it looks as though I need to take the thrust washer out and investigate. I see replacements are available, or if the wear is elseware, I can machine an oversize washer.
 I have had this car for 10 years and this is the first time the movement has been noted at Mot although the annual mileage last year was very low. First off, I will measure the endfloat.
 Mark
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 Paul Yorke
 Grand Master
 Username: paul_yorke
 
 Post Number: 1257
 Registered: 6-2006
 
 | | Posted on Tuesday, 09 September, 2014 - 06:22: |    | 
 Did you grease before the MOT? Annual Oil changes and grease ups are really important, even (especially) on low mileage cars.
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 Jan Forrest
 Grand Master
 Username: got_one
 
 Post Number: 650
 Registered: 1-2008
 
 | | Posted on Tuesday, 09 September, 2014 - 20:22: |    | 
 A boss I used to work for had a fairly seriously wobbly king pin (not RR/B) which he pumped grease into. It sailed through the MOT!
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 Paul Yorke
 Grand Master
 Username: paul_yorke
 
 Post Number: 1260
 Registered: 6-2006
 
 | | Posted on Tuesday, 09 September, 2014 - 20:37: |    | 
 A fairly seriously wobbly motor trader used car body filler in a car king pin.
 
 Sailed into us with an unhappy new owner next mot.
 
 Seriously though. Grease Grease Grease. Don't ignore it or put it off. Same with oils.Engine annually. Others about 4 years.
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 Geoff Wootton
 Grand Master
 Username: dounraey
 
 Post Number: 468
 Registered: 5-2012
 
 | | Posted on Tuesday, 09 September, 2014 - 22:27: |    | 
 I seem to recall the Silver Cloud had a "fourth pedal" that was used to pump grease along a network of pipes to various components on the car. Is this correct, or is it false memory on my part?
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 Chris Browne
 Prolific User
 Username: chrisb
 
 Post Number: 148
 Registered: 2-2010
 
 | | Posted on Tuesday, 09 September, 2014 - 23:25: |    | 
 Hello Geoff,
 No you remember correctly but it was only a third pedal as almost all Clouds had automatic gearboxes. The centralised lubrication system was a feature on all Rolls-Royces until the introduction of the Shadow. On the Clouds, the instruction in the owners manual was one pump of the pedal every 200 miles. This sent oil (not grease) to most of the steering and front suspension pivots. The system was simplified in the later Cloud 1's when the lubrication for the steering arms was altered to grease nipples. The oil tank sits on the bulkhead in the engine compartment above the steering column and the beautifully made foot pedal comes through the bulkhead and comes out close to where the clutch pedal would be on a manual car.
 
   Kind regards,
 Chris
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 Mark Aldridge
 Prolific User
 Username: mark_aldridge
 
 Post Number: 149
 Registered: 10-2008
 
 | | Posted on Wednesday, 10 September, 2014 - 00:28: |    | 
 Paul, my reply appears to have disappeared!.Yes the car was greased and full service prior to MOT and it is greased  and brake drums removed every 6 months.All other oils inc brake fluid, are changed at 2 years or 6000miles, engine oil and filter annually or 3000 miles, whichever comes first.
 I have also altered a grease gun so that all oil feeds to the suspension can be disconnected and  be pressure lubricated with EP90 at service intervals in addition to the central lube system when on the road.
 Mark
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 Geoff Wootton
 Grand Master
 Username: dounraey
 
 Post Number: 469
 Registered: 5-2012
 
 | | Posted on Wednesday, 10 September, 2014 - 01:32: |    | 
 Hi Chris
 
 Many thanks for your reply. I don't know why I said "fourth pedal"; I haven't owned a manual car in 10 years. Old habits and all that.
 
 Needless to say, the unit in the picture is beautifully restored.
 
 Geoff
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 Paul Yorke
 Grand Master
 Username: paul_yorke
 
 Post Number: 1261
 Registered: 6-2006
 
 | | Posted on Wednesday, 10 September, 2014 - 02:30: |    | 
 Don't start searching for one on your 2 or 3. They were gone by then!
 
 Mark, I wish all owners were that diligent, both for their pockets sake as well as the cars
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