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Wayne Wardman
Experienced User
Username: wayne_wardman

Post Number: 16
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Friday, 28 October, 2011 - 03:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

My Cloud 1 is intermittently failing to have the starter motor come to life.

I have removed and checked the ignition electrics and all seems well there, so I have concluded that the gearbox 'thinks' it is not in Neutral at startup.

If starting is repeatedly attempted she eventually kicks over and all seems well. But, then she becomes difficult again.

The manual does not seem to cover this issue.

Thank you for any advice

Wayne
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John Budden
Experienced User
Username: johnb

Post Number: 29
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Friday, 28 October, 2011 - 04:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Wyne,
Have you checked the neutrl/prk switch- the contcts wear or could be dirty?
John B
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Paul Yorke
Grand Master
Username: paul_yorke

Post Number: 811
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Friday, 28 October, 2011 - 05:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

If you hold the key over and move the gearstick upwards, does that help?

Can you hear the starter solenoid clicking?

Your car may have a starter solenoid with the press button on. If you press that , does it crank?

Moving from neutral and back again, can you hear a faint click from the inhibit switch? It's situated in the engine bay where the column goes through the bulkhead. They can go out of adjustment.
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Wayne Wardman
Experienced User
Username: wayne_wardman

Post Number: 17
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Thursday, 17 November, 2011 - 07:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Hi John and Paul

My apologies for the delay.

The lady functioned perfectly and then had a fuel pump failure so I have installed a new pump from Midel in Sydney - they were very helpful and Mr J Vawser suggested different plugs - Viz NGK B6ES. So the experiment continues.

I shall report back on the above suggestions
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Paul Yorke
Grand Master
Username: paul_yorke

Post Number: 824
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Friday, 18 November, 2011 - 06:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

New plugs to make the starter motor turn . . . I'm missed that one! :-)
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Wayne Wardman
Experienced User
Username: wayne_wardman

Post Number: 19
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Monday, 16 January, 2012 - 06:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

The Cure has been found!

After various approaches and affirming that the kind advice given did not solve the issue, I looked further at the 'starter motor relay' and voila, on www.swammelstein.nl/fault.htm is a Fault Diagnosis page that includes reference to my car's problem and cites the Manual - Section M.

Sure enough, there is a reference to two 'micro-switches' (which they are not, by the modern definition) that sit on top of the steering column just below the fuse box.

One allows the starter motor to engage and the other activates the reversing light.

Mine looked OK but clearly was out of position by a very small amount. Undoing the nearby nuts and making the small lever lean slightly leftward has cured the problem.

It is one of those that looks so obvious in retrospect but, the process, of course, is a humbling one.

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