| Author | Message | ||
     JohnWilson Unregistered guest Posted From: 184.147.204.23 |
Having done several test drives with 1930 Phantom II 117GN it is evident that the clutch brake is not working. Is it possible to remove the shoe to inspect its friction pad without major disassembly? From stationary with the engine at idle depressing the clutch to engage first gear is only possible with grating gear teeth. Once moving, up shifts are fine. Referring to 1962 40-50 HP Phantom II Handbook Part 1 pp 52 the only apparent adjustment is the angle of lever "O" on the clutch withdrawing shaft "M". Any help or advice will be much appreciated. Thanks. (Message approved by david_gore) | ||
| Martin Webster Experienced User Username: martin_webster Post Number: 57 Registered: 09-2018 |
John, my original number IX PII manual for chassis 103TA specifically states on page 80 that there is no clutch stop or brake fitted in the clutch description paragraph. I was unaware that the earlier series were fitted with a brake. Martin | ||
| Christian S. Hansen Prolific User Username: enquiring_mind Post Number: 1059 Registered: 04-2015 |
John...I have the same problem with my 1929 PI chassis S426MR and there is a service manual diagram that shows a clutch brake but as I could not determine how the adjustment is accomplished, have not driven the vehicle now for a number of years lest the grinding damage the transmission gears which would be a comparative disaster. Should you determine the adjustment procedure, please post here as I am most sincerely interested. Meanwhile I will try to find the service section and illustration to which I refer. | ||
| christianhan Unregistered guest Posted From: 71.32.50.175 |
John...I have exactly the same issue with my 1929 PII and scrutiny of the workshop illustrations definitely shows a clutch brake but since it appears to be not an easy adjustment and due to my age and physical limitations I have had to stop driving one of my favorite vehicles. Any further remedies of the issue are certainly of interest. Good Luck!! (Message approved by david_gore) | ||
| David Gore Moderator Username: david_gore Post Number: 4264 Registered: 04-2003 |
Christopher Carnley has kindly forwarded the image below for me to post on his behalf:  . | ||
| John Wilson New User Username: machinist60 Post Number: 3 Registered: 08-2019 |
Thanks so much Christopher and David for providing the image and description. No friction fabric shoe liner was visible when examined with a borescope. It was found by feel that the lower end of the rod (J) was hanging free and not connected to the 'c' shaped end of the lever (K). So the brake has been applied continuously for many years. Grating gears will continue to occur at every start from stationary unless someone does a major tear down in the future. Regards, John. |
