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     Stephe Boddice Frequent User Username: stephe_boddice Post Number: 87 Registered: 2-2005 |
New Phantom III engine blocks... It's a reality!!! It has taken nearly two years but check out http://www.phantomengineering.com/phel_B01.html | ||
| Patrick Lockyer. Grand Master Username: pat_lockyer Post Number: 864 Registered: 9-2004 |
Great news,just hope that HOAT type antifreeze is used from the word go!!!!! | ||
| Brian Vogel Grand Master Username: guyslp Post Number: 648 Registered: 6-2009 |
One should hope that any seals used at this point in time would be ones that are composed of materials that are compatible with any of the currently available types of antifreeze. These materials do exist and are now the de facto standard. One should not be having to think about the type of antifreeze one is using with what amounts to a new engine. If one does it can be chalked up to very bad design decisions. I doubt that this sort of lack of consideration would be at play here since Mr. Boddice has already been down that road in the past. Brian | ||
| Randy Roberson Grand Master Username: wascator Post Number: 730 Registered: 5-2009 |
I have checked back at the Phantom Engineering website a few times and found no more updates. Very interesting place to spend some time, though. I got to see my first PIII actually run back in April at the Branson collector car auction. it seemed quite a Car. The idle was soooo smmmooooth. I KNOW it had some torque! My friend bought a Pierce-Arrow V-12 at this same auction and is it fine! | ||
| Brian Vogel Grand Master Username: guyslp Post Number: 2329 Registered: 6-2009 |
Randy, That is one thing that really does strike me about Rolls-Royce engines from the classic era. They are so quiet, and definitely live up to the marketing of their time. A correctly sorted engine of this vintage is much quieter than those of the Shadow & SZ series, at a minimum. I've never been around enough Cloud/S series cars "in listening mode" to compare them to the Phantom. At one point there was a local car restorer, and he did *high* end cars, that had a P-III under restoration at his shop that I got to see "in parts." At the time there was a slightly earlier vintage Cadillac and Pierce Arrow as well. As far as P-III engine blocks go, I imagine these are a very low demand and high dollar item and that updates to the site would be (and have been) very infrequent. Brian | ||
| Mark Luft Frequent User Username: bentleyman1993 Post Number: 78 Registered: 10-2016 |
Brian, my S2 was no quieter than my SZ. I think the six cylinder cars are the most silent of the breed. I do have an acquaintance in Fredericksburg with a PIII, and that is a quiet motor too. The PIII's are an amazing auto to see and ride in. | ||
| Randy Roberson Frequent User Username: wascator Post Number: 842 Registered: 05-2009 |
That same Phantom III was back for a return try at this fall's Branson auction. This time it was adopted for $31,000. Chassis number 3AEX33. According to the history accompanying this example, this was the fourth of the experimental PIIIs known as Spectres. It was built in 1935, under test at Derby on 28 August 1935, and was registered on September 30th as RC 3168. It was driven by a Rolls-Royce test driver named Lewis to Paris for use as a demonstrator at the Paris Motor Show. During 1936 it was used as a factory demonstrator by the RR Sales Department. As such it as loaned to HRH Prince George, the Duke Of Kent, for a weekend in February. Later in February it was loaned to Sir John Leigh for a day (he bought four PIIIs).In early 1937 it was returned to the RR Experimental department, where it was used for testing. That October it was returned to the Sales Department and prepared for sale. Engine 6 was removed and engine 10 from Chassis 31EX was installed; the chassis was upgraded to current specifications, and renumbered 3AEX33. On June 28, 1938, it was sold in Birmingham to James Cadman. In 1953 it was owned by John L Mackinlay in Yorkshire, and later by Sir Leonard Ropner. By 1960 it was in the USA, owned by George Gray Farr. Car has I believe a Park Ward body, style of a close-coupled or sport saloon (fortunately not a limousine). | ||
| Randy Roberson Frequent User Username: wascator Post Number: 843 Registered: 05-2009 |
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| Brian Vogel Grand Master Username: guyslp Post Number: 3110 Registered: 06-2009 |
I am actually shocked that it went for that low a price! I presume it's roadworthy, but if not, that explains a lot about the price. Brian | ||
| Geoff Wootton Grand Master Username: dounraey Post Number: 2230 Registered: 05-2012 |
Me too. Sold price is listed at $35,200. Maybe it's a typo - $135,200 | ||
| Randy Roberson Frequent User Username: wascator Post Number: 845 Registered: 05-2009 |
I was there. Started easily, idled smoothly and was driven onto the turntable. Auction owner has a collector-car shop and reported they had worked on the engine an replaced worn kingpinsin the front suspension; “runs and drives as it should”. Interesting that this was R-R’s first independent front suspension and it was based on the GM “knee action” system from that eta, with coil springs enclosed in oil. | ||
| David Gore Moderator Username: david_gore Post Number: 3827 Registered: 04-2003 |
The vehicle did sell for USD35200. https://bransonauction.com/auction-consignments/rolls-royce/phantom-iii/1937-rolls-royce-phantom-iii/  | ||
| Patrick Lockyer. Grand Master Username: pat_lockyer Post Number: 2391 Registered: 09-2004 |
David, looks like these v12 cars are going out of fashion. Not a great price for all that history as well. Cripes look at this just like the old Ford that I owned many years ago. Ah, why did I not do a 12V conversion. https://bransonauction.com/auction-consignments/ford/sunliner/1955-ford-sunliner-convertible-2/ |
