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Patrick Lockyer.
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Posted on Wednesday, 27 November, 2019 - 09:37:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Just have to wait till 2025 to replace the RR for towing.
Tri motor AWD 0-60mph in 2.9s

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ross kowalski
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Posted on Wednesday, 27 November, 2019 - 09:59:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Patrick,

It better be self driving because that thing is so hard on the eyes that you'd have to be drinking and likely blindfolded to endure it.

Maybe the self driving feature would steer you away from store fronts so you wouldn't have to see your reflection.

Yikes.
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Trevor Hodgekinson
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Posted on Wednesday, 27 November, 2019 - 09:59:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

If Tesla is quoting 2025 then start thinking about it in 2035 which will be about the same time as the preliminary model gets released for trial.
That is of course if the investors have continued to pour millions into a business that is yet to break even let alone show a profit and is structurally insolvent
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Patrick Lockyer.
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Posted on Wednesday, 27 November, 2019 - 10:15:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Maybe the Speeding with this stealth type radar invisible shape will make the speed traps redundant.

2022 for the USA Cybertruck!
More to this design and cost saving that will make it a winner IMO.
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ross kowalski
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Posted on Wednesday, 27 November, 2019 - 10:47:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Patrick,

That thing would show up as mid sized shipping container with those giant flat sides.

What will make this car-truck a winner is the same thing that made the pontiac Aztek a winner.
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Mike Thompson
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Posted on Wednesday, 27 November, 2019 - 13:42:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

I'm with Ross on the but ugly part, but if you hand me the keys to something that will do 2.9 0-60 I would drive a Dick (Cheney) wagon down the road.

But I feel like saying Gort, Klaatu Nikto Baratas Bringy Dingus. When I see it.



Gort
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Trevor Hodgekinson
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Posted on Wednesday, 27 November, 2019 - 13:50:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

But the problem is by the time you get to 60 mph the batteries are flat.
I only know one person with a tesla
He told us a while back that as a drive to work car it is great
gets around 300 km on a charge in summer with the air con on
gets about 120 km on a charge in winter with the heater on
gets around 200 km with him & his wife which is way too short to leave Sydney.
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Mike Thompson
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Posted on Wednesday, 27 November, 2019 - 14:01:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

When I saw Elon Musk presenting that thing I was wondering if it was a joke. From cybernetic Neuralinks technology to a Cybertruck. What was he thinking. His Spacex mission to mars does look like a shinny ...

dick cheney
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David Gore
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Posted on Wednesday, 27 November, 2019 - 16:46:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

There might be a thing or two to say about design infringements - looks like a cross between a WW2 V2 rocket, the Space Shuttle and a submarine.

The old saying "a camel is a horse designed by a committee" immediately comes to mind.
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Mike Thompson
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Posted on Thursday, 28 November, 2019 - 00:45:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Speaking of V2 here is another Elon Musk design. Spacex Starship.

starship

And to the above image (Mars Mission) and submarine, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea comes to mind.
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Patrick Lockyer.
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Posted on Thursday, 28 November, 2019 - 02:58:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Wow, looks like Tesla is a win win and its only the prototype.
Just love the tough stainless body makeup, dent free and the bullet prove glass that can be broken for easy access in a accident etc.

Confirmed !
On Sunday, Musk tweeted reservations have hit 187,000. Later that evening he tweeted that it had hit 200,000 reservations, putting the total deposits at $20 million.
Reservations require a $100 refundable deposit. How many of those deposits will convert to actual orders for the truck, which is currently priced between $39,900 and $69,900, is impossible to predict. And there will likely be plenty of speculation over the next two years. Production of the tri-motor variant of the cybertruck is expected to begin in late 2022, Tesla said.
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Patrick Lockyer.
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Posted on Thursday, 28 November, 2019 - 10:02:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

IS This WHY Elon Musk IS A GENIUS...

Problem: Raise money for building trucks.
Solution: Elon spends a few million dollars and builds 1 visually POLARIZING prototype. (plus smashes a Porsche in a speed race and destroys a towing tug-a-war with an F150 along the way).
He then holds a press conference to show it off and “Accidentally” breaks two windows knowing that's going cause drama and get media coverage.
After, he offers pre-sales for a mere $100 deposit.
Within a few weeks he will be claiming well over 200,000 pre-sales (already over 150K orders)
200,000 x $100 = $20,000,000 Pre-Sale Rev.
Elon can then go to the big boy investors with all this data and rally them to gather their cash 💵
200,000 trucks x $40,000 each = $8 Billion Bucks
He should easily be able to raise 20% = $1.6 Billion
Total investment? 🤔
One prototype truck & One unveiling party!
Is that why Elon Musk is a genius.
(and thank you to Aaron C for the copy)

Tri motors = 500 mile range and towing 14000lbs cripes the Ford F-150 will be on the back burner!
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Mike Thompson
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Posted on Thursday, 28 November, 2019 - 13:40:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

To be fair beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I'm sure the DeLorean (Back to the Future) with its stainless steel design was not liked (and had a teeny tiny 130-hp engine). This car cost John DeLorean his freedom charged with conspiracy to obtain and distribute 55 pounds of cocaine in a sting operation. Ultimately DeLorean was acquitted of the drug charges in August 1984.

The new/old DeLoreans outside DMC's Texas location.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a25938392/inside-delorean-motor-company/

Delorean 1

Delorean 2

Pre-advertising is nothing new, maybe Thomas Edison was the first to use it to boost ultimate sales.

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ross kowalski
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Posted on Saturday, 30 November, 2019 - 12:45:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Elon Musk gets three things VERY right.

One, there is a large part of the population that wants cars that represent the future. Getting into a tesla is like driving a sci-fi movie prop.

Two, electric cars are the way to go for most of the reasonably affluent drivers in the first world. They are coming, be on top of that curve, be behind that curve, whatever, they are coming.

Three, cars are fashion not function. Most pickup drivers drive around with them empty most of the time, they just like to look tough. So tesla is betting that people will want the "smart tough" look and he is not wrong for that segment.

but,

The commercial truck market is not going to like that effort much. Sure some rich towns will have them for driving their tree and grounds people around but they are lacking a lot of what is desired there. So, none of the old accessories fit, the bed is only 6', you cannot put on a flatbed, leaf box, utility body, the price is more for less work, if you don't live in a "right to repair" state you can't fix it in house, You need dedicated fast chargers for your fleet, regular body shop isn't going to like repairing it, insurance will be higher, etc.

Then there's charging.

When it finally is released in 2025 someone will raise it 6", someone will lower it to the ground, someone will put diesel in it and of course all the obligatory magazine "shootout" articles will be written. If my f250 diesel is not running at that point, I'll look into it.
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Mike Thompson
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Posted on Saturday, 30 November, 2019 - 16:48:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

I still think electric is loopy. Hours for a half charge, come on. How do you get to work, and who has the time for that? Hydrogen would be like filling your car with fuel. You fill and go. Whether it is a fuel cell or just used as fuel. And hydrogen does not weigh a quarter of a ton added to the car.

The Tesla Roadster has a range of 245 miles. My last job was 160 miles alone, round trip. I would be constantly looking for a place to plug in at 120v. No thanks.
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Patrick Lockyer.
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Posted on Saturday, 30 November, 2019 - 21:30:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

"Loopy" have not heard that in the engineering description of progress or otherwise.

Don't throw the dice if you can't pay the price.
As for the old T roadster, the new one will have a range of 600+ miles.
Progress, move with the times!

Cripes just seen the cost of a hydrogen every day type of car and the cost of fuelling the things.
https://www.carthrottle.com/post/engineering-explained-5-reasons-why-hydrogen-cars-are-stupid/
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Trevor Hodgekinson
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You are right about one thing Patrick,
Elton Musk is a genius when it comes to duping people out of their money.
He will eventually be taken down & remembered as a visionary con-man.
The Tesla investors were just about to pull the plug so to speak and he comes out with the ute, scores a cool 20,000,000 which he can use to pay out some of the investors who have gone cold then con a pile more to buy in.
That used to be called a Ponzy scheme.

A week or so back, the electric prime mover failed yet another field trial.
He has presold over 50,000 of them to major freight companies Walmart & Pepsi Co , all of which need to be seen as carbon neutral.
They were released in 2017 and production was due to commence in 2019 which has been pushed back to 2020 then further back to 2021.
Note this is the proposed start date for manufacture.
However at this point in time he does not have the production capacity to build the proposed 50,000 trucks a year in any existing plant.
Ask any one involved in building factories or vehicles if they think you can get a factory built and production happening within that time frame and they will laugh you out of the room.

So despite the fact he is yet to deliver on the semi, he is now taking orders for a small truck that he can not actually build either.
There is a term for that and it is called FRAUD
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Mike Thompson
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I stand by the technical term Loopy when it comes to electric cars. The 5 reasons are a shame.

1. It’s Not Currently Green

Hydrogen can be made from water, and produced by solar power. Which means it is as green as it gets.

2. The Process Is Inefficient

So they think it is better to just stick in a plug and avoid transportation cost. Hmmm, And the whole point of mandated electric cars is to solve the carbon signature. Where does the plug connect to, a coal burning electric generator no doubt. Hydrogen will not have any more transportation costs than shipping fuel from Arabia and then to all the gas stations. And there is the cost to time ratio with electric cars verses a hydrogen car. Time is money and it will cost a lot to charge them.

3. It’s Expensive

As they said "Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles, like any new technology, are not cheap."

And that is for fuel cells, I would rather have Internal Combustion with bigger more efficient engines.
(Plus I would rather cars make a sound so kids know to get out of the street when playing a sport.)

4. Energy Independence

They say all you have to do is plug in at night and never see a gas station again. Hydrogen is made from water. If you use a home solar panel and make your own hydrogen you too would never see a gas station again (A Vlad mobile). And no mention of the pollution of making and destroying those 500 lbs batteries. (Plus those batteries are dangerous, I had to have special training as a parts specialist to handle the sales of those massive batteries.)

5. What About Refuelling And Range?

They said it themselves: "The range of the Toyota Mirai is about 300 miles, and refuelling can be done in about 5 minutes. That’s a significant time saving over a Tesla Model S charge, even if it’s using the fast supercharging stations. This is the real advantage of hydrogen cars over electrics."

So hydrogen is not only not stupid, they make more sense. Electric cars are Loopy.
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Patrick Lockyer.
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Posted on Friday, 06 December, 2019 - 22:06:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

No sign of problems with the quick time of getting the Tesla factory built with M3s rolling out the door in the end of January.
The subsities sure will help.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/china-built-tesla-cars-recommended-for-subsidies-ministry/ar-BBXQgDO?ocid=spartandhp
No sign of the failed it seems hydrogen car, can't imagine why......
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Trevor Hodgekinson
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Posted on Saturday, 07 December, 2019 - 06:04:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Yes,
Living off investors funds and subsidy farming.
A definate sign of a well run company with a solid future ?
Note there are only 3 weeks till the end of 2019 and the story states they AIM TO MAKE MORE THAN 1000 CARS A WEEK BY THE END OF 2019.
Also note there were no ACTUAL production figures quoted.

Being that the work is being done in China one will never know what the embedded pollution in the production of the vehicle is but I would guess that it is about 10 years of emissions from a standard petrol powered vehicle.
In fact the only firm number they printed was the cost of the factory, most of which came out of the pockets of the investors.
As of October 2019 just under 80,000 model 3 had been made.
Way short of all of the predicted production numbers of 300,000 for 2019.
Building them in China should bolster the production numbers but it will also make it very easy to massarge the numbers & lie to the investors
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Patrick Lockyer.
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Nothing wrong with investors making money long or short in a growth company.
I bought in 2015[185.00] and have been in and out ever since, price now [335.39].
The USA folk should cherish such a talented CEO and companies of the future.
Tip,Maxwell super capacitators altra capacitators in the fold.
Musk is a genius.
Move with the times on future charging in minutes.
BTW your figures are incorrect!
Just wait till the German factory is built with production of the new models in record time.
Will it mean more investment, I hope so.
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Patrick Lockyer.
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Posted on Friday, 13 December, 2019 - 19:05:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Good news, feel refreshed to-day.
Changes at last.

And Good news from USA on the Tesla 3 with regard to elec consumption.

"The Porsche Taycan Turbo is a power-hungry electricity guzzler that uses double that of the Tesla Model 3, new figures from the US-based EPA has found"

Tesla batteries are IMO light years ahead of the German batt technology.
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Patrick Lockyer.
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Posted on Saturday, 14 December, 2019 - 17:57:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

No wipers needed in the future may be.

Tesla patent with laser cleaning.....
https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1126262_tesla-files-patent-application-for-glass-cleaning-lasers
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Mike Thompson
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If that isn't the loopiest idea I've ever heard of. So you're sitting in your garage and want to clean your window off, you hit the button and the lasers starts burning away dirt or whatever. The beam is also burning away on your garage ceiling and starts a fire and burns your house down.

Or a mother sits her baby on the roof of the car in a carrier, the car detects something in the line of sight and tried to burn it in half.

Yeah there won't be law suits on that.
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Patrick Lockyer.
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A million miles on tesla batteries is a step nearer.

"Musk’s predictions might be on its way to becoming reality. At the Palo Alto event Musk promised that Tesla would soon make cars that could last for at least a million miles without requiring any significant maintenance. Now, a scientific paper published by Jeff Danh – an academic at the University of Dalhousie in Canada who also leads Tesla’s battery research group – suggests that Musk’s prediction may already be possible."

http://jes.ecsdl.org/content/166/13/A3031.full

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Patrick Lockyer.
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Cripes China built model 3 on its way from start of factory to production in under a year.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/news/tesla-delivers-first-china-made-model-3-sedans-in-just-under-a-year/ar-BBYrViE?ocid=spartandhp
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Patrick Lockyer.
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Interesting documentary on Elon Musk and Tesla, 2012
cripes eight years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD9PGi8hHvY
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Patrick Lockyer.
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Simple insight of Tesla growth with debt and cash flow!
Clever long term share growth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHS0H5AwGjU
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Patrick Lockyer.
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Thought I would share with you some interesting facts on the new model Y, clever stuff with the robot being able to install the new type loom.

Looks like my MS will have to move on when this model Y as it seems going to be earlier than expected into production.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiD7ZDc7kJ4
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Patrick Lockyer.
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German tesla Gigafactory forest cleared, looks huge.
Competition for the VW group that are IMO years behind.
All looking good!


Hope you chaps made a killing on the early part of Feb sold half of my shares!
Dam 40% tax though!

More on battery production changes next.
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Patrick Lockyer.
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Tesla plans for quadruple battery production with
catl, no stopping them now!
https://electrek.co/2020/02/03/chinese-battery-giant-catl-confirms-supply-agreement-with-tesla/

Tesla has hit the one million car produced and it is the Model Y.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/a31337140/tesla-produces-1-million-cars/
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Patrick Lockyer.
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Thought I would spend some cash on a update from 19" to 21" staggered wheels wow and I thought it was for looks.
Now the car handles like being on rails with the air suspension it is a real treat.
Only down side so far is the slight increase of road noise.

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Mark Luft
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Looks Great!!
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ross kowalski
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Patrick,

I don't know if you can get to this year's Meetup, I don't even know if I will be able to, but if you could you should bring the tesla.

Tesla, the true American luxury car.
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Patrick Lockyer.
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Ross sadly the way things are going in the UK with Covid-19 looks like travel will be a no go many refunds are being delt with and ongoing.

As for [Tesla, the true American luxury car.] I would add "Tesla the true American technology car"!
Don't I just love the times when I pick up friends when it is my turn to drive and they find they blow wind when they sit in their seats.

One-day left the car in a car park and returned home with much Guinness etc on board, so next day gave my Son the key fob and asked him to collect the car.
Would you believe my phone rang to give me a message from Tesla USA via satellite to show the car being moved and a live video showing position and speed etc with car on route.

The solar and the Tesla power-wall 2 that gives most free electricity for charging the car and running the home etc with a pay back cheque as well for every unit produced to cover the cost of installation with profit long term that has turned out short term!.
Ross you are lucky to have such a clever Gent as Elon Musk in the USA.
Hope he Tesla can weather the future storms that will IMO be forthcoming through no fault of his own!
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Patrick Lockyer.
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Thanks Mark for your kind remark.
Convinced me to still look forward to new technology
wheels or whatever in my old age!
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ross kowalski
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Patrick,

I was in a model 3 performance recently and it gives all the acceleration with 0 headache.

I have driven cars as quick but they are absolutely frightening to drive. Everything you do has to be perfect or you go slow, break something worth thousands of dollars, or die. All that while being cooked and deafened by the headers.

The Tesla ... Just stand on the pedal and let science do the rest. And you have aircon!
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Benoit Leus
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I can confirm what Ross says.
I recently drove a Model 3 and it was phenomenal. Acceleration is almost supercar like, without any of the drama. And it handles too.
If I didn't have to do 30,000 motorways miles a year, I might well consider one.

Benoit
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Patrick Lockyer.
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The super value Model 3 is a booted car smaller than the hatchback Model S, that was my only gripe after the booted Citroen C6s,
In years to come my next will be the Model Y then the Cyber Truck.

E Musk was thought at the time in 2016 to have a filtration system for the Model S and Model X for the occupants as a over kill, proving now to be more than safe in todays environment.

https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/blog/putting-tesla-hepa-filter-and-bioweapon-defense-mode-to-the-test?fbclid=IwAR0sFp9TcMYjK4KwDg4iMDsf87JOEg87yExWojXyW8fZVxkYyjt2VXXFK7s
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Patrick Lockyer.
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Posted on Thursday, 30 April, 2020 - 17:03:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Difficult times but a profit will see the stock rise.


https://electrek.co/2020/04/29/tesla-tsla-q1-2020-results/
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Patrick Lockyer.
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Good news if true now, will mean no German supplied Tesla cars. Be Good for the employment side of things.

https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/somerset-news/elon-musk-tesla-uk-factory-4192165

Having a second Powerwall 2 with backup gateway fitted soon, will store surplus energy instead of returning it to the grid.
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David Gore
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Patrick,

German plant solely for LHD vehicles......... UK plant for RHD??

Makes a lot of sense especially if it results in a lower landed price compared to the US-sourced cars currently sold here.

I would be very interested to know why you decided to not export what I assume will be increased surplus energy from the additional system.

Low existing output due to UK solar conditions or the creation of "Lockyer Energy" to supply cheap electricity to your neighbours?????
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Patrick Lockyer.
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Username: pat_lockyer

Post Number: 2319
Registered: 09-2004
Posted on Sunday, 07 June, 2020 - 18:27:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

David, many reasons for greater storage, main reason the exporting payment is only 3.90P per unit.
Backup Gateway, auto backup off grid, larger storage electric to home and E cars as insurance to any grid future cut offs.

BTW the original solar is paying for the max allowed FIT of 55.36p per unit index linked for many guaranteed years to come.

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