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Vladimir Ivanovich Kirillov
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Posted on Thursday, 08 August, 2019 - 20:18:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Omar 1967 Mercedes 600 $56,500

Yes my middle eastern jacket hog.

Beverley Hills Car Club well google that hardly a club but a dealer.

This car needs work.

If you buy it I need as my compensation 1.Good looking Iraqi or Syrian wife (cannot afford a Dubian) 2. Bottle of Vodka 3. Middle eastern traditional clothing with head caper 4. 100 hours of Russian Psychiatrist 5. The Jacket.

Psychiatrist needed because I saw the squid ugly velour seats and now I am having acid type nightmares.

Its all your fault as usual.

He has to be negotiable but probably is the cheapest 600 on the planet.

Don't buy the bugger over the net please. Take some sick leave, fly to LA and look at it in person.

Could be fixed, first you must redo seats in leather.

Have already got approval from your wife for you to buy an industrial sewing machine and install it in your sorry her lounge room.

Honestly Omar first the Phantom and now this - what a trouble maker you are!}
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Robert J. Sprauer
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Posted on Thursday, 08 August, 2019 - 22:46:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

The 600's are amazing and simple cars to work one but part can be hard to find and pricing. I had one that I took apart and foolishly sold when completed. I would rather have a 600 any day over any RR/B it is very exclusive.
The worldwide guru with this car is someone I know and met him many times when he lived in PA and he moved to Wisconsin to set up his new shop. His name is Karl Middlehauve. Google him and you can see his shop and 2 custom 600 couples and El Camino designed car. He is a cool guy.
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Brian Vogel
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Posted on Friday, 09 August, 2019 - 00:08:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

And if someone really needs an industrial sewing machine I can probably convince my partner to sell his, as I can't see him ever using it again, and it's gathering dust.

Brian, who associates the 600 too much with despots (and who never cared all that much for the Mercedes styling idiom of that era, either)
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Robert J. Sprauer
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True Many movies that featured despots, heads of state and power elite have been seen in 600's. Driving one is an experience.

PS Brian Sewing machine. You may have my email addy. Interested in the make/model etc. Thanks Robert
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Vladimir Ivanovich Kirillov
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Posted on Friday, 09 August, 2019 - 01:39:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

When I did my apprenticeship I got to work on a 600. I thought and still do that it was quite a car. I also got to ride in one. The mechanic smoked it up in the middle of Brisbane and that was a hoot.

The 6.3 V8 really had grunt. But we also had a 300 SEL 6.3 which a farmer owned but the fool had driven it into a creek and water went straight up the air intakes and bent all the con rods.

Later on in life I got to drive one of these and they were pretty fast and could easily shred the rear tyres.

I would love to own a 600 but cannot see it ever happening unless I win the lottery.

Robert I know of that fellow who restores 600 who you speak off, he is quite a specialist.

One day I will buy an industrial sewing machine for leather upholstery - its something I have studied but never done.

Time will tell.
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Mark Luft
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Posted on Friday, 09 August, 2019 - 07:55:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Vlad, showed this to my dog Nina. She said "Rough Rough", I have to agree.
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Larry Kavanagh
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Posted on Friday, 09 August, 2019 - 08:46:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

I'm currently considering the acquisition of a low mileage 500 SEL that appears to be in pristine condition. Any opinions positive or negative would be appreciated as I'm having difficulty making up my mind.
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Mark Taxis
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Posted on Friday, 09 August, 2019 - 11:20:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

What an amazing variety of cars a pity most of them have the steering wheel on the wrong side
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Patrick Ryan
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Posted on Friday, 09 August, 2019 - 12:47:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Iím with you Brian.

That age of Mercedes was hard to like.
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Patrick Lockyer.
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Larry, 500 SEL great car, owned one with most of the options.
Only prob I had was the rear diff assembly became noisy with towing.
Replaced the car with a 300 TE 4matic with all the bells and whistles....
Both vehicles I thought were a bit heavy on fuel but that may have been down to my right foot!
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Larry Kavanagh
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Thanks for the benefit of your practical experience Patrick. MPG isn't a major concern as I would be only using it for occasional pleasure driving and compared to my Silver Shadow it should be marginally more economical on fuel. I'm still considering it but a camper van has also caught my interest which complicated decision making. No doubt I could have more pressing problems.
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Vladimir Ivanovich Kirillov
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Posted on Saturday, 10 August, 2019 - 06:26:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Larry as long as you have a mechanic that can work out the electrical problems when they occur, a 500 would be a great car.

Myself I wouldn't mind one of the later not Grosser
600 SEL convertibles but I have my car habit under control now.....I think.....perhaps....
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Larry Kavanagh
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Hi Vlad, the 500 SEL I was considering is a 1982 twin carb model but I think I'm now more inclined to go for a Fiat Ducato diesel camper van and set off to see the world.
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Hubert Kelly
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Posted on Sunday, 11 August, 2019 - 08:10:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Vladimir, like you, I too would love to own a Mercedes 600 pullman RHD, a most fantastic car.
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Vladimir Ivanovich Kirillov
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Posted on Sunday, 11 August, 2019 - 09:40:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Hell Hubert I would take left hand or right hand just to have one in the garage.

Then I would get a Kim Jong Un haircut, a bottle of vodka, a Cuban cigar and get an young attractive cowgirl to drive me down to a seaside town where the European backpackers converge and I would start with running amok and end with howling at the full moon like a drug crazed banshee.
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Hubert Kelly
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Posted on Sunday, 11 August, 2019 - 18:06:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

I have only ever seen 2 Mercedes 600 in Ireland, one of which may have been owned by the band U2 as it was parked outside the hotel they own/owned, (on old Irish plates), the second was at a vintage car show 15/20 years ago.
We still howl at a full moon here, I'm not crazy about hearing then banshee though...
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Omar M. Shams
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Posted on Sunday, 11 August, 2019 - 21:36:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Dear Vlad,
Many thanks for finding this car.... truth is they are every scarce indeed.
I have always loved the 600 in any guise. There are some crackers out there. However they are seriously expensive for a poor man like me. This particular car is a bit pricey for the condition its in. I have seen them cheaper.

One of my friends has three of these - one of which is a LWB. He showed them to me 20 years ago and at that time all three were in various states of restoration. Since then he has had a few medical issues that mean he will never be involved with classic cars again. One of his relatives will show me the cars next month. I am keen to see them again after such a long spell - I wonder what state they are in now. If one day I buy one of these cars i will put a modern Benz V8 and tranny in it and drive it as a daily driver and take it to the shops etc. If I do buy one of these rare cars - it will not be a garage queen.

The upholstery is obviously best in leather - but if it came with velour - then that is how it would stay for me.

All the best
Omar
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Robert J. Sprauer
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Velour was an option especially on European delivery cars. There were a few options that can effect value. Sunroof, refrigerated armrest console etc. Replacement curtains are now over $2000. The V-8 was first used in the 600. It also has 2 alternators and 4 horns. It is bulletproof and no need for a modern V-8. Pointless.
I regret selling mine.
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Vladimir Ivanovich Kirillov
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Posted on Monday, 12 August, 2019 - 13:29:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Omar the Supreme Soviet demands you not post another syllable about those three 600s.

I may be seriously cashed up next year and if the price is right and its all there I am in LHD or RHD.

Naturally if I buy one with perfect Velour I will rip it up and in will go some smelly leather.

Velour in a 600! Its VERBOTEN I tell you VERBOTEN!!!
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Vladimir Ivanovich Kirillov
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Larry 500SEL vs Fiat Ducato. Larry really, either you were at the pub when you wrote that or you seriously need help.

Take the 500SEL and buy a camping stove, a 12DC refrigerator, and a two man tent oh and a loaded hand gun.

Honestly, the Irish have been a real problem ever since they stopped buying our AK 47s to keep the squirrel population down.

What is the world coming to!?!
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Mike Thompson
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Posted on Monday, 12 August, 2019 - 16:02:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

This what a Rolls goes for around here.

Rolls Royce Silver Shadow II - $16500

https://austin.craigslist.org/cto/d/georgetown-rolls-royce-silver-shadow-ii/6950233593.html


1979 Rolls Royce - $17800

https://sanantonio.craigslist.org/cto/d/san-antonio-rolls-royce/6933356211.html
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Omar M. Shams
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Dear Vlad,
I will keep you posted. We may buy one each!!! lets see how things pan out.

Dear Robert,
I have owned the 100 series engine before and to be honest it is very expensive to own. Yes the whole thing works well but if anything broke - you are toast. My intention is to subsidise ownership of this expensive car through the use of a modern drive train.

Omar
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Robert J. Sprauer
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Omar. keep in mind if you update the drivetrain you will be dealing with sensors and an ECU.
The people buying 600's want 100% original ones. A conversion no matter how well done will diminish the resale in my opinion.
Personally not worth the expense and effort. The 600 was built to rival and surpass the Shadow and they did a great job doing so.
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Mike Thompson
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Omar if you swap to a modern drive train why not put a 7.0 L LS engine in as a sleeper car like this. :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT4R3hyB1oM
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Vladimir Ivanovich Kirillov
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Omar, you are a wicked but humorous vandal.

Personally I am worse if I encourage your insanity in replacing the 6.3 with some ghastly late model computerised riff raff donk.

Then again it would not be right for you to pollute the ritsy squeaky clean environment of Dubai with a polluting 6.3 nor to have it sitting in your man cave upsetting she who must be obeyed.

Thus therefore ego etc you must sell that hideous engine to me.

Gosh and heavens to Betsy I just felt a rush of guilt!
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Larry Kavanagh
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Too late Vlad, I just bought the Fiat Ducato a couple of hours ago prior to reading your advice. To make matters worse I have to admit to having been stone cold sober at the time. Looks like I'm now destined to travel the highways and by-ways of Europe to justify my purchase.
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Hubert Kelly
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Congrats Larry, we had several old campers over the years, without one now for about two years though. I noticed great value in campers in the last few weeks particularly the auto trail type.
Hope you have many happy years touring.
Larry the Beara Peninsula is a must and Achill
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Omar M. Shams
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Dear Larry,
Congratulations on that great purchase. Do what makes you happy mate - that's the golden rule.

Dear Vlad,
The whole idea of the engine swap is to subsidise ownership. ie you sell the engine and gearbox to be able to afford the rest of the car and then put a modern engine from a Mercedes in it (like AMG have already done).
I can then own and drive the 600 without having to marry the bank manager.

Dera Mike,
The LS is a great engine and yes I want that in my Land Rover Defender (soon to be a new project) but for the Mercedes - a Stuttgart engine will have to be selected.

Dear Robert,
Everything you say makes complete sense - yes I agree. However if I go down the conventional route I will never own one of these cars in the 17 years of life that I have remaining (using the law of averages for remaining life calculations).
Selling the car after I have done it up is not really a concern for me. Also where I live - having a car you can drive (and reliably) gives it a significant advantage. I can always sell it to a hotel for them to use as a limo.

Thanks
Omar
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Larry Kavanagh
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Thanks Hubert & Omar. The Beara peninsula is definitely on my list, I spent a week in Kenmare a couple of years ago and really enjoyed it, the Healy Pass was a great drive.
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Mike Thompson
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Driving my truck out towards Utah (State in USA).

utah 1

utah 2

utah 3

utah 4

utah 5

utah 6

Look at the top of the ridge.

utah 7

utah 8
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Larry Kavanagh
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Great pictures Mike.
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Hubert Kelly
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Larry, John Brennan of "at your service" TV fame, has a fabulous camp site at his manor estate in Kenmare, worth a visit if your out that way again
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Larry Kavanagh
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Thanks Hubert, I'll check into it. I saw his tents on the telly, if I recall correctly there was a storm on opening day but the tents withstood the winds. I'm probably going to end up at Listowel races in September and may do the Ring of Kerry while I'm at it. I'm reasonably familiar with the Dingle & Beara peninsulas.
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Hubert Kelly
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Sounds great Larry, the camp site out the muckross road in Killarney couple of meters beyond the glen eagle is probable one of the best camp sites we ever stayed at. Just if your doing the ring of Kerry
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Larry Kavanagh
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Thanks Hubert, I'll check it out.
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Vladimir Ivanovich Kirillov
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Kavy, please send me pics of Red Square Moscow because I much homesick. Visit Hermitage Museum in Leningrad and Mother Russia Statue in Stalingrad.

When down in Croatia check out the Spit.

Kiev in Ukraine is also eye candy.

I fail to understand why wars were fought and men women and kiddies lost their lives in such seeringly beautiful places.

I must visit Ireland one day and I will come knocking on your door.
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Hi Vlad, Croatia has been on my bucket list for a while now, I almost got there by sea from Bari Italy a couple of years ago but the sailing was cancelled so I ended up in Bologna instead. There's a queue of shapely women with black hair and blue eyes eagerly anticipating your arrival in Ireland, in the meantime I'll try to keep them distracted and alleviate their frustration.
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Vladimir Ivanovich Kirillov
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Thanks Larry I knew you would.
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Omar M. Shams
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Dear Vlad,
I was in the Ukraine only last month. Yes indeed about the eye candy mate...... yes yes yes!!!
And goodness it is certainly cheap enough to live there. Beer was about 75 Cents (US) a bottle.
Not that I drank any - I am not good with alcohol.... puts me to sleep within minutes.

I did have a local drink which the whole of the ex-Soviet Union drinks. It is called Kvass and is just amazing. They say there is no alcohol in it but i beg to differ.....
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Omar what about a couple of pints of good Somerset cider with Alan Dibley and myself, go down a treat.


Richard.
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Omar M. Shams
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Like we did last year.... And the year before...
Now that would be lovely Richard.
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David Gore
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Richard,

Now you are talking my language - a large pot of cider will always solve one's problems in my experience.

We have some very good craft cider brewers here especially in Tasmania where the climate is very well suited to growing cider apples.

I long to renew my past friendship with good scrumpy from a cellar door sales shop.
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Omar M. Shams
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Dear David,
We are all looking forward to an evening with you mate....

Omar
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Omar M. Shams
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http://www.m-100.cc/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2865
look at this site Vlad.... This is what I am looking to do....
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David Gore
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Omar,

You will most likely not hear from Vladimir for several days as he will be having vivid "Grosser" wet dreams like those from his teenage years!!!!

Re your earlier post, I am getting much closer to achieving my intention of finally having some "me time" so we can start fulfilling our wish list. Quite a few long-standing impediments have finally been taken off the "to do list" in recent months.

Just have to hope the current world economic climate doesn't descend into a major recession in the next 18 months as a consequence of certain leaders' political and economic stupidity.

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Mike Thompson
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Maybe it is a childhood fantasy of the cold war days. :-)

cold
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Vladimir Ivanovich Kirillov
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Omar, looks nice but will be horrid upon a breakdown unless you have a tow truck to scrape it up.

No I would definitely stay with the 6.3 engine.

Mike nice post of a classic Zil. Pity they are so shockingly expensive and I would say the parts bin emptied years ago.

How comfortable our true communist friends were years ago while most in CCCP could only dream of food on the table.
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Mike Thompson
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I have been to Dubai many times, (well to the airport switching planes, all the metal palm trees, really nice airport). Since I have never made it to the road I have no idea which side of the road they drive on.

And they now use fish as security guards hmmm.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/dubai-airport-replaces-security-checks-with-face-scanning-fish/

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