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     Omar M. Shams Grand Master Username: omar Post Number: 965 Registered: 4-2009 |
A friend of mine has a rare Omega Semaster 2850SC with the 1956 Olympic crest on the dial and case that he wants to sell. As it is linked to Australia, I though I would ask my learned friends from down under to give me an idea of what its worth. I will try to attach some images soon. | ||
| Omar M. Shams Grand Master Username: omar Post Number: 966 Registered: 4-2009 |
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| Benoit Leus Prolific User Username: benoitleus Post Number: 278 Registered: 6-2009 |
Omar, a similar watch was sold at auction in 2014 and made 4.375 US Dollars. More information can be found in this link. http://www.archivedauctions.com/s/962069/omega-ref-2850-sc/ Benoit | ||
| Omar M. Shams Grand Master Username: omar Post Number: 968 Registered: 4-2009 |
Thanks Benoit. I think my friend was expecting more than that, even though his doesn't have the box. I will just have to tell him to set his sights lower. Thanks again. Omar | ||
| Patrick Ryan Grand Master Username: patrick_r Post Number: 801 Registered: 4-2016 |
This biggest problem here Omar is that it is a smaller omega case. 34mm is one of their mid size cases and almost a boys watch. Smaller watches are not so popular, but this type of watch is more of a collectors item, and not so much a daily wearer. The small case size will limit its saleability. The missing box and paperwork is particularly bad, and will severely de value the watch due to not being able to confirm its provenance. Like cars, commemorative watches need to be complete and original for best value. Of course condition and wear (mileage) will also contribute to its value. Being 18k (0.750) gold, it is particularly soft and if the watch was worn a lot, will have rear case back detail missing or not sharp. The strap & buckle are also very important to this watch. It should also be stamped 0.750 on this watch and not be plated. I have paid almost as much for an Omega gold buckle and strap as I did for the watch head it matched. I have also paid over $1500AUD for an original Omega box to suit a watch I was restoring. Here are some interesting links to this watch and it's rarer model brothers. As can be read, there are variations to dial colours etc that effect the watches rarity. https://www.deployant.com/omega-seamaster-xvi-olympic-watch/ http://forums.watchuseek.com/f20/vintage-seamaster-xvi-olympic-edition-596697.html Here are some links of a 1956 watch, box and paperwork. * note the paperwork does not have any sell date, or any matching number to the watch it's self and the blank serial number field is also of concern, as this means it could be from any older Omega. That blank field should have hand writing by the selling dealer that indicates the actual watch sold serial number. The serial number is provided by the manufacturer on the swing tags provided with the watch. The heavy stamped number on the paperwork is a document number. The 14725842 on the swing tag number is the serial number, and it would be interesting to see if it matches the watch when the back is removed. The 2 tags have matching model numbers (OT 2850) This shows a OT2850 model. I can't find any reference to any OT 2850AP model, but I am sure it may point to your friends dial model. http://watchvalues.net/omega-ot-2850/ http://www.retrovintagewatch.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=30128 The serial or case number number will be inside the case back on his model watch, or maybe stamped on the case between the lugs similar to a Rolex, but I am not sure when Omega started this procedure of serial number stamping. Sorry to provide a lengthy post here. | ||
| Omar M. Shams Grand Master Username: omar Post Number: 975 Registered: 4-2009 |
Dear Patrick, Wow you really know your watches mate!! Thanks for the info which i shall pass on. Omar | ||
| Patrick Ryan Grand Master Username: patrick_r Post Number: 817 Registered: 4-2016 |
Hi Omar, I have been trading watches since primary school, and buying and selling watches since high school. I wear all my watches, and I would have made an offer in this one if it was a larger watch. Even though it's not a larger case, I would have made an offer if it was boxed with papers. Mate, It can be as tough as identifying cars and their matching numbers and what their build consisted of, with watches. Like cars, it is as interesting. Just have to watch out for the sharks who put things together using old, new reconditioned and re painted (dials) parts and then passed off as being original. Your friends watch looks awesome mate. | ||
| ross kowalski Prolific User Username: cdfpw Post Number: 237 Registered: 11-2015 |
Omar, The 34mm is a bit on the small side, but the two I've been wearing recently are 36mm. One's a Doxa w/o date complication because I can just pick it up, set it an go.The other is a 36mm Felica which I wear because it is the clumsiest most ill proportioned watch ever made. Personally, I always prefer watches, cars, etc that aren't investment grade because you take them out more often and you don't have to be paranoid about scratches. Whatever he ends up doing, it's a good looking piece. | ||
| Omar M. Shams Grand Master Username: omar Post Number: 977 Registered: 4-2009 |
Dear Ross, You are right about enjoying your watches. I am not fussed about the value of anything as long as i get pleasure from it. so I wear my best watches (all the time) and drive my best cars all the time. Like you I also use my Rolls-Royces and Bentleys as work horses and jewellery in combination. You only live once - enjoy every minute of it. | ||
| ross kowalski Prolific User Username: cdfpw Post Number: 241 Registered: 11-2015 |
Hear Hear. | ||
| Patrick Ryan Grand Master Username: patrick_r Post Number: 835 Registered: 4-2016 |
Fully agree gents. My favourite piece is an old Seiko automatic divers watch. As Omar and Ross rightly say. If you like it, buy it, wear it, use it regardless of the brand, make or heritage. | ||
| John Beech Prolific User Username: jbeech Post Number: 154 Registered: 10-2016 |
I'm fortunate to have never been bitten by the watch-collecting bug but know a few guys that take it very seriously, indeed. Me? Like Patrick, I favor the Seiko automatic diver's watch (and have worn one for more than 40 years since my grandmother gave me my first upon entering high school). They last me about 10-15 years when I buy another in lieu of sending it in for repair, cleaning, and refurbishing. Lately, however, I have been acting like a Millennial because I've been depending on my iPhone, instead (sacré bleu, I know). Speaking of my grandmother, she also gave me a gold Cross pen, which I still carry (and recently sent to Cross for refurbishing). | ||
| Omar M. Shams Grand Master Username: omar Post Number: 982 Registered: 4-2009 |
Oh John..... Let us not get started on pens... Fountain pens are addictive...... | ||
| David Gore Moderator Username: david_gore Post Number: 2371 Registered: 4-2003 |
When I was finishing primary school in the late 1950's, we made the transition from the old pen, nib and inkwell to fountain pens. I never really mastered the art of writing with basic Copperplate script let alone the more advanced styles. Big mistake as my already atrocious writing became even worse with the fountain pen. The "Bic" biro pen had also been released in Australia and my 1960 6th class teacher in desperation allowed me to try using a biro pen with moderate success - my writing improved but still remained hard to read. Somewhere in storage is my 1962 high school year 2 essay book which contains the classic entry by my year English teacher "Marvellous, only 3 words I couldn't read. Onward ever onward". The advent of computers and word processing software was my saviour and I avoid handwriting even now....................... | ||
| Patrick Ryan Grand Master Username: patrick_r Post Number: 867 Registered: 4-2016 |
John, Those Seikos are almost bullet proof. A real classic watch. Omar, We have found another one of your vices. NICE!!! | ||
| Omar M. Shams Grand Master Username: omar Post Number: 985 Registered: 4-2009 |
yeah Patrick..... lucky nobody has started talking about pretty women yet......... | ||
| Patrick Ryan Grand Master Username: patrick_r Post Number: 870 Registered: 4-2016 |
Oh dear, Here we go!  | ||
| Patrick Ryan Grand Master Username: patrick_r Post Number: 874 Registered: 4-2016 |
Omar, What about pretty women AND Rolls Royce? Example 1.  | ||
| Mark Aldridge Grand Master Username: mark_aldridge Post Number: 384 Registered: 10-2008 |
Patrick, this thread is improving ! Cheering, as I have now been advised to rest for 10 days having contracted Bronchitis . Our busiest time of the year for the business. Keep them coming Mark | ||
| Omar M. Shams Grand Master Username: omar Post Number: 986 Registered: 4-2009 |
oh dear...... weakness is every man's vice..... as Mark says............. keep em coming.... | ||
| Patrick Ryan Grand Master Username: patrick_r Post Number: 880 Registered: 4-2016 |
Maybe a beautiful brunette will make your recuperation better Mark?  | ||
| Patrick Ryan Grand Master Username: patrick_r Post Number: 881 Registered: 4-2016 |
Shopping for parts maybe? This wrecker may be able to assist with your needs?  | ||
| Christian S. Hansen Grand Master Username: enquiring_mind Post Number: 484 Registered: 4-2015 |
Patrick... Does your wife know what you do with your spare time? | ||
| Alan Ford Prolific User Username: herne13 Post Number: 113 Registered: 8-2016 |
I never got one of those when I purchased my car ;) | ||
| Patrick Ryan Grand Master Username: patrick_r Post Number: 883 Registered: 4-2016 |
Yes Christian. She always says it's ok to go window shopping, as long as I come home to eat  | ||
| Patrick Ryan Grand Master Username: patrick_r Post Number: 914 Registered: 4-2016 |
Omar, Here is something I have from 1956. An unopened commemorative coke bottle complete with a casting date of "56" in the base. Might be worth as much as the watch??    | ||
| Omar M. Shams Grand Master Username: omar Post Number: 999 Registered: 4-2009 |
wow........... what a survivor... and in such good shape too!!! | ||
| Patrick Ryan Grand Master Username: patrick_r Post Number: 916 Registered: 4-2016 |
Like me it's a bit knocked around but doing ok |
