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Robert Noel Reddington
Grand Master Username: bob_uk
Post Number: 1187 Registered: 5-2015
| Posted on Wednesday, 16 November, 2016 - 08:20: | |
200MPH 300 Miles range no engine 2 motors one back one front. This car has drawn some uninformed criticism. I want one £60,000. |
Patrick Ryan
Grand Master Username: patrick_r
Post Number: 667 Registered: 4-2016
| Posted on Wednesday, 16 November, 2016 - 08:38: | |
Is this it Robert? The I-Pace http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/news/jaguar-reveals-i-pace-electric-car/
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Benoit Leus
Prolific User Username: benoitleus
Post Number: 271 Registered: 6-2009
| Posted on Wednesday, 16 November, 2016 - 22:24: | |
I really like this car. In my opinion it looks much better than the Tesla Model X it would be competing with. I just hope the design doesn't get watered down too much for the production version. Looking at the quality of my XF Sportbrake I vowed not to buy a Jaguar again but this might make me change my mind. Benoit |
Patrick Ryan
Grand Master Username: patrick_r
Post Number: 668 Registered: 4-2016
| Posted on Thursday, 17 November, 2016 - 07:09: | |
Hi Benoit, You can bet your bottom dollar some of the best design items we both like in the above image will not make it to production. |
David Gore
Moderator Username: david_gore
Post Number: 2304 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Thursday, 17 November, 2016 - 08:33: | |
Benoit, I would have expected Jaguar to be competing with the Tesla S series rather than the Model X with their early all-electric models. This would allow them to achieve a "halo" image around the car plus the smaller number of vehicles sold would make the inevitable early recalls to fix problems less newsworthy to detract from the Jaguar reputation. This has been Tesla's strategy prior to launching the Model X. |
Patrick Lockyer.
Grand Master Username: pat_lockyer
Post Number: 1047 Registered: 9-2004
| Posted on Thursday, 17 November, 2016 - 17:56: | |
The formula-E tells the real story on battery electric development IMO. Jaguar have much to do it seems. http://www.fiaformulae.com/en/results/race-results/season/2022016/round/2 Renault Nissan the ones to watch. Range value and reliability goes to the new Zoe IMO. On my second all electric Leaf,due to change soon. |
Robert Noel Reddington
Grand Master Username: bob_uk
Post Number: 1194 Registered: 5-2015
| Posted on Friday, 18 November, 2016 - 09:05: | |
I liker the Leaf nice town car. The ZOE is even better but not available used. So Patrick I would hang on until the ZOE comes down in price. Trouble with Renault is the battery rental. |
Patrick Ryan
Grand Master Username: patrick_r
Post Number: 672 Registered: 4-2016
| Posted on Friday, 18 November, 2016 - 11:49: | |
Yes Robert, I understand this is fairly common battery rental in these cars. A strange set up I think. |
Patrick Lockyer.
Grand Master Username: pat_lockyer
Post Number: 1052 Registered: 9-2004
| Posted on Sunday, 20 November, 2016 - 03:30: | |
The new Zoe has a 40kw battery and a real world range of 186 miles wow. Battery can be bought out right with no contract. Dealer with the give away discounts seem way to much I will keep quiet on that. |
Patrick Lockyer.
Grand Master Username: pat_lockyer
Post Number: 1053 Registered: 9-2004
| Posted on Sunday, 20 November, 2016 - 03:36: | |
And now another all electric to consider the Hyundai Ioniq |
Patrick Ryan
Grand Master Username: patrick_r
Post Number: 675 Registered: 4-2016
| Posted on Sunday, 20 November, 2016 - 05:31: | |
Can't go wrong with a Hyundai product Pat. |
Benoit Leus
Prolific User Username: benoitleus
Post Number: 274 Registered: 6-2009
| Posted on Sunday, 20 November, 2016 - 05:47: | |
I'd very much like an electric car, if only for the incredible feeling of comfort by driving in complete silence and the accessible performance from standstill. However, as I often do between 300-400km per day, the real world driving range (especially in winter), is currently often a problem. Also, here in Belgium there are almost no charging points. Maybe in a couple of years when battery technology has improved I might buy one. Benoit |
Patrick Lockyer.
Grand Master Username: pat_lockyer
Post Number: 1055 Registered: 9-2004
| Posted on Sunday, 20 November, 2016 - 06:33: | |
Patrick thanks I know little about Hyundai, if they are as good as Kia then nothing to worry about. Benoit, Have you considered the roof top solar array for charging, I use this method with off peak electric when the the clouds are about. What I really like with the all electric car is the instant torque that is available when pulling away at juntions and traffic lights a real hoot..... |
Patrick Ryan
Grand Master Username: patrick_r
Post Number: 676 Registered: 4-2016
| Posted on Sunday, 20 November, 2016 - 07:57: | |
Hi Patrick Hyundai bought into Kia and I think that has been the case for about 15 years now. I understand they product platform share, but still operate fairly independently. Here in Australia Kia has been known for many years now as being the superior riding and handling car plus better NVH over Hyundai, as Kia were doing lots of local chassis and suspension testing and development here on our crappy roads. Hyundai have just started to do this in the last couple of years. I have driven a lot of near new Kia hire cars as I travel a lot with work, and yes they are VERY good at soaking up the bumps & reducing road noise and the interior benefits from all the development. I also get asked to find & inspect many first cars for teenagers, or second family cars. I have a little saying. "Japanese or Korean, never European" This is based on that over many years of sourcing cars for people, the Asian cars even with high k,s are still running like Swiss watches. The same age and high K Europeans are usually running like a busted arse, and have warning lights that resemble a well lit Christmas tree. Here is Australia we have a lot of Opel based cars, and they are just shockers. Even the dealers can't fix them any more. Plus when you source a car for a family, you sort of also feel obligated. An Asian car I source I know will be good, and thus, I don't loose sleep or wait for THAT phone call saying--- "that car you recommended to us---------" |