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Chris Gillings
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Username: chrisg

Post Number: 63
Registered: 4-2001
Posted on Sunday, 23 January, 2011 - 15:16:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

I am in need of a tail-light bulb housing for a Bentley Mk VI to replace the one I have where the glass has broken. I can't find the part number but on the intact one I have the glass bears the marking "Lucas 461-1A".

Here are some photos of the part I need. I'll accept one without glass as I have some plastic lenses that will do the job. Anything will do, so long as the pair matches!


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Tim North
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Posted on Tuesday, 25 January, 2011 - 20:17:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Introcar sell replacements for these-with either flat or domed lenses. These are I suspect pattern parts.

Alternatively you could try The Electrical Parts Company www.theelectricalpartscompanyltd.com

(Message approved by david_gore)
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Richard Treacy
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Post Number: 2293
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Wednesday, 26 January, 2011 - 14:36:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Holden in the UK sell this sort of thing too:

http://www.holden.co.uk/displayProductsByMake.asp?carMake=Bentley&carMakeCode=B2

Nothing to do with GMH of course.
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Martin Cutler
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Post Number: 165
Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Monday, 28 March, 2011 - 18:38:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Hi Chris,

If you still need one, I have a spare pair, not for sale, but you could borrow it to get Black Bess back on the road, and return it when you find one.

Cheers

Marty
0408 808 206
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Chris Gillings
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Post Number: 66
Registered: 4-2001
Posted on Tuesday, 29 March, 2011 - 23:33:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Thanks Marty, but what makes you think Bess is off the road? (You impugn her honour, sir!) She's fighting fit and ready to go any time I call on her to do so. The last time she was unusable for more than a few days was 2002-2003.

The request arose from my having recently gone through the interesting job of replacing nearly all of her lightbulbs with LEDs (not a a trivial task for a positive-earth chassis, so I'll be writing it up soon to help others).

After being rear-ended in 2002 the people who [ahem] 'repaired' her stuck a bodgy piece of red lens plastic from (so I was told) an HQ Holden into the right rear housing. This plastic was not what you'd call heat-resistant and in a very short space of time melted from the heat of the brake bulb and became nearly opaque. That was the initial motivation to go the LED route but once the LEDs were in, the melted plastic had to go regardless. I picked up some plastic domes from a trader at the All-British Day last year but even so, glass is original so glass it should be if possible.

Of course, now the major (fun) part's done it's dropped in priority: getting Christopher (SG 1492) ready to go to Canberra has been occupying much of my available time for last month or so.
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Patrick Lockyer.
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Post Number: 837
Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Wednesday, 30 March, 2011 - 05:28:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Hi Chris,if you have a jowett car club near you it may be worth getting in touch with them as the Javelin rear lights are the same.
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Martin Cutler
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Post Number: 166
Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Sunday, 08 May, 2011 - 18:01:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Hi Chris,

Pistols at dawn? :-) Sounds interesting, haven't played with LED bulbs yet, what is the life expectantcy? They are brighter, do they draw less current?
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Chris Gillings
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Post Number: 67
Registered: 4-2001
Posted on Sunday, 08 May, 2011 - 19:24:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

I've just now (well, two hours ago) submitted an article to Praeclarum on the subject. If it's accepted, Part 1 may appear in the next issue, whereupon your questions will be answered.
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Francois Charlier
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Username: vonplum

Post Number: 24
Registered: 3-2011
Posted on Tuesday, 07 June, 2011 - 18:43:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Hi, Chris
you can look at this
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BENTLEY-MK-VI-R-TYPE-ROLLS-ROYCE-DAWN-WRIATH-TAIL-LIGHT-/260792253303?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cb86dfb77

tail
francois
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Chris Gillings
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Post Number: 68
Registered: 4-2001
Posted on Tuesday, 07 June, 2011 - 19:41:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Thanks for the tip, but I'd like the whole housing, not just the glass.

Also, the seller doesn't ship to Australia.
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Richard Treacy
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Post Number: 2351
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Tuesday, 14 June, 2011 - 18:41:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

That is a very interesting article, Chris, and Iíll take up your lead. You have come up with a really excellent solution. The greatest issue on my R-Type was with the twin-filament bulbs. The front sidelamps and the tail lamps are all dual-filament on the Australian-spec R-Type as it has the original stop/tail/indicators at the rear and side/indicator at the front. For those I piggybacked a pair of suitable LED clusters into an old bulbís carcass apparently as you have done. For the single-filaments I simply used dual-wire sockets, and standard 24-LED drop-in inserts for brightness and diffusion on the reversing lamps. The flasher unit was tricky too as an electronic one is needed for LEDs. I made one myself as I couldnít find one suited to +ve chassis at the time.

I would like to know how reliable your bulbs are. Mine are not good, and seem to last maximum 12 months. The same applies on my Turbo R, so itís not an issue of alternator vs. generator. I hope that itís simply what comes from buying cheapies at $3 each in Hong Kong Ė I bought 100 of various sizes and ratings some years back, so I hope that newer versions are better. Also, the interior lamps were too harsh with LEDs, and my Festoon LEDs leave something to be desired. After reading your article, Iíll try some new ones of the types that you suggest. If you fit HID headlamps as I have done on the Turbo R, then the sidelamps look silly with the old yellowish incandescent globes. LEDs smarten them up with their bright white appearance.

Incidentally, someone is bound to suggest a conversion to Ėve chassis electrics. OK, it is a very easy change to make. Quite apart from preferring the quaintness of +ve chassis, I would point out that +ve chassis is not a silly English quirk. It protects the sheetmetal of the bodywork from corrosion. The fragile sheetmental is protected by the +ve chassis. The sheer bulk of the chassis can easily afford to be the consumable anode. Itís the same way that bridges and pipelines are protected against corrosion.