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Brian Vogel
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Username: guyslp

Post Number: 494
Registered: 6-2009
Posted on Saturday, 29 June, 2013 - 01:32:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Hello All,

While I had the top roll off and was working on other "things electronic" I decided to pop out the climate control temperature sensor that's located between those two small plastic grates at the center and take some photos.

Temp Sensor Pic 1

Temp Sensor Pic 2

While I'm not having issues with the climate control, I am curious as to what this thing is composed of and how it works.

It appears to be two simple electronic components mounted to a non-conductive board of some sort. That board is then riveted to a metal bracket that's used to hold it in place. There is a single wire going to one leg of each of the two respective components. The remaining legs on each are connected together. I presume the whole purpose of the third leg that results from this being sheathed and mounted to the board is to prevent rattle.

If anyone knows what the components are, how they work together, and, for the sake of future diagnosticians, how one would go about checking whether this thing functions I would appreciate it.

Brian, always curious
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Jan Forrest
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Username: got_one

Post Number: 486
Registered: 1-2008
Posted on Saturday, 29 June, 2013 - 01:42:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

I would say that the circular component will be a thermistor - a resistor that varies value according to ambient temperature. The other is a simple resistor to add a fixed bias to the range of the thermistor. Unfortunately without a component ID it's impossible to do more than guess the temperature range versus resistance change.

It can be easily if crudely checked out with a resistance meter securely clipped onto the leads followed by dipping just the sealed thermistor into cups of water at various temperatures checked with a brewing thermometer.
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Paul Yorke
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Username: paul_yorke

Post Number: 1062
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Saturday, 29 June, 2013 - 03:07:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

A thermister and a resistor in series - in a chain.

Don't dunk in water, just hold the thermister in your fingers and see the resistance change.

I think the aircon manual gives a graph of resistance v temperature if you wish to pursue it further.
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Brian Vogel
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Username: guyslp

Post Number: 497
Registered: 6-2009
Posted on Saturday, 29 June, 2013 - 03:38:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Thanks gentlemen.

At this point the thing is back in the top roll and the top roll is back in the car.

I was really just curious about this item and whether anyone had ever needed to replace or repair one. It certainly wouldn't be a challenge to repair if one knew exactly what the characteristics of each component were intended to be.

Brian
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Richard Treacy
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Username: richard_treacy

Post Number: 2853
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Saturday, 29 June, 2013 - 20:21:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Note PY's warning. Also, unlike the thermistors of the engine temperature gauge, utter rubbish on these cars after a year or so unless modified by the way, the ones on the climate control seem to last forever. If it has continuity, maybe 3K, and the system functions, leave well alone. The component drift is so small that an ageing thermistor will correlate with just a millimetre or so on the temperature selector dial.

RT.