| Author | Message | ||
     Ben Curtis Frequent User Username: burgundyben Post Number: 68 Registered: 12-2015 |
I was thinking, for me, there's a sweet spot in Shadows, there must be a few Chippendale dash, 6.75ltr and 3speed auto cars. They won't have the lovely chrome interior door furniture of the very early cars. But all things considered, a real sweet spot. | ||
| Patrick Ryan Grand Master Username: patrick_r Post Number: 1538 Registered: 4-2016 |
Hi Ben, I cant say I have seen one of those. Would be a very interesting car, that's for sure. | ||
| John Beech Grand Master Username: jbeech Post Number: 390 Registered: 10-2016 |
If by Chippy dash you mean sans padded knee at the bottom, then no, I don't believe so because my 1969 has the 6.25L engine and no chippy dash. It is, however, a 3-speed. What I wonder is, however, whether the engine block changed transmission bolt patterns because I'd much rather have the 4-speed overdrive of later cars, which I suspect are based on the 700R4 version of the venerable Turbo-Hydramatic transmission. The question is, is it a bolt up in which case I also need the new style shifter, or do the shifters stay the same and give up a means of slipping them into 1st gear? Does anyone know for sure? I wonder because I can speculate and create hot air all by myself. | ||
| Patrick Ryan Grand Master Username: patrick_r Post Number: 1539 Registered: 4-2016 |
Hi John, I'm pretty sure a 4 speed overdrive transmission never lobbed into the cars until the 1991 Silver Spirit II. It was a GM 4L80-E This included a 4th gear overdrive ratio of 0.75 It would also have been electronically controlled by a PCM or TCM, working hand in hand with the ECM or ECU. | ||
| Ben Curtis Frequent User Username: burgundyben Post Number: 69 Registered: 12-2015 |
Interesting. I thought this was a chippendale dash,3 speed 6.75, but I now think I'm wrong and is a 6.25. | ||
| Patrick Ryan Grand Master Username: patrick_r Post Number: 1540 Registered: 4-2016 |
Need a chassis number Ben. Early cars with 6.25 that were not domestic did have early examples of the TH400. Weather they were early enough to still have the Chippendale dashes, is a matter for the chassis number gurus. I also read that if you wanted to order a Chippendale dash after they were superseded, they would build you one. Can't say I've seen one though. | ||
| David Gore Moderator Username: david_gore Post Number: 2562 Registered: 4-2003 |
I have always been under the impression all LHD Shadows exported to the USA were fitted with the 3 speed T400 auto and RRMC used up their stock of 4 speed Hydramatics on UK Shadows and those delivered to the colonies and only installed the T400's once there were no more Hydramatics. As always, I will appreciate confirmation/correction if necessary. | ||
| Ben Curtis Frequent User Username: burgundyben Post Number: 70 Registered: 12-2015 |
It seems I failed to add a link earlier. Here's the car I thought was 6.75/3sp/chip dash. http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C664532 I was wrong, online enquiry shows its 6.25. | ||
| Patrick Ryan Grand Master Username: patrick_r Post Number: 1542 Registered: 4-2016 |
David, I understand it wasn't so much as to the supply of the older 4 speeds, but it had something to do with a law/regulation/requirement that stated English cars needed to have English made transmissions. The loophole allowed the non domestic cars to have the American made boxes fitted. This regulation was dropped at some stage allowing all Shadows to have the GM box. | ||
| Patrick Ryan Grand Master Username: patrick_r Post Number: 1543 Registered: 4-2016 |
Ben, It's like the old WWI paint they used to camouflage ships against U Boats. The graphics really alter the shape of the underlying vehicle. Check out Titanic's sister Olympic in her war paint in WWI Just scroll towards the bottom of the link to see the pics. It's a good read as well. http://www.ssmaritime.com/RMS-Olympic.htm |
