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Adrian Jump
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Posted From: 84.13.133.143
Posted on Saturday, 01 December, 2012 - 05:04:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Hi everyone. Can anyone direct me as to where I may find an answer to the following:

1996 Brooklands (TCH chassis No.), the warning light cluster has displayed 'Check Engine' ever since changing the battery,(the slave battery connected to maintain power became disconnected during the process) a scanner will presumably cancel this. The problem that has now occurred is that the display during driving has ceased to illuminate with the exception of the 'Ice Warning' light (it was near freezing)- this tells you I am not in Oz! The Ice Warning light started to flicker and then that too disappeared, the last part of the journey being with a totally blank warning light cluster (headlights on). On arrival home I turned the ignition back on without starting the engine and the 'Systems Check' light at the bottom appeared and then moved to display the 'Ignition' and 'Oil' light. No other display. I switched off and a little while later turned on again without starting and everything was back to normal but then disappeared. With headlights on the screen is totally unillumunated, with headlights off the screen is lit but with no information displayed. Sound expensive?

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Paul Yorke
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Post Number: 893
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Monday, 03 December, 2012 - 19:44:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Hi Adrian,

It sounds like it may have been spiked and damaged inside.

They are almost always repairable as long as nobody has 'had a go at it ' previously.

Have you tried disconnecting the battery overnight (terminal not the switch) and trying again?

Was any attempt to boost start tried before changing the battery or was it a preventative battery change.

Feel free to pm me if that doesn't help and you would like more info on repairs.
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Adrian Jump
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Posted From: 92.26.140.231
Posted on Thursday, 06 December, 2012 - 09:39:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Hi Paul, The battery was changed to a spare one in order to conserve the new one fitted not long ago as I have not got a 'conditioner' permanantly connected with not having power.Would never boost start a car with ECU's and the like anyway. Have not been back to check state of play yet (stored at club members house). I live in hope that all the nasties will have miraculously self righted themselves when I next go to it! Just thought I would start the help process in case the problem persists. The battery change was some time ago and the 'check engine' light has been illuminated for nearly that length of time. The complete failure came out of the blue when I took it for a run a few days ago.I prefer the 'simplicity' of my Shadow 11 and Turbo R !!

Kind Regards

Adrian

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James Feller
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Post Number: 248
Registered: 5-2008
Posted on Monday, 10 December, 2012 - 08:35:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

that 'check engine' light can come on for all sorts of reasons Adrian. While my car is a fair bit older than your brooklands, 89 Turbo RL, the motronic ECU system is pretty much the same, you have a pretty digital screen, I have to look at older fashined lights and count blinks...
Im not sure if you have cleared the computuer of fault codes. IN the Tech Library on here is the instructions on how to do it. Try it, you might be surprised what the computer is telling you by way of blink codes....
I clear mine every few months as a habit. However the only time I may get the 'check engine' light come on is if a heathen gets in my car and hits the strat to quick and lets the key go registering a mis start on the system 2.1.2.1 code..... But turning the ignition off then cranking again light goes out.
have fun!

J
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Adrian Jump
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Posted From: 78.144.21.41
Posted on Tuesday, 11 December, 2012 - 18:03:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Helo James, Thanks for the response (and Paul). I went over to the car last night and tried it again and all appears to have self righted itself. All lights function properly both on switching on and running the engine :-) A friends Arnage T had the 'check engine' light come on after cranking without starting first time ("mis start"). He bought a £20 scanner which put it out, wouldn't access anything else though. Was trying to go on the RREC seminar on post 90 electronics but they didn't run it due to poor uptake. This is an area I am lost on. Anyone recommend a cheap scanner that will access the various functions, I presume I cannot remove the 'check engine' light without one? There appears to be no on line manuals available yet, I guess R.T is still busy working on this together with the millions of other things he does! Hopefully matters will stay self righted with the warning light cluster on the next proper run!

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James Feller
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Post Number: 249
Registered: 5-2008
Posted on Thursday, 13 December, 2012 - 12:57:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Adrian, good to hear. However I may have missunderstood you. You can check the ECU yourself. U dont need an external 'scanner' to do it. Go into the tech lib and look at the docs RT has put up. For my 89 Turbo I initiate the blink code sequence and diagnostics by switching the ignition to RUN and then in the fuse section in car, I depress the 'Motronic Diagonois Button; square black button. I think your maybe black or red, not sure. An then the computuer startes the blink sequence. Its all there in the tech library on how to do this. I find it quite interesting. Anyway, hope all remains will mate.

J
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James Feller
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Posted on Thursday, 13 December, 2012 - 13:56:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

just to add, after you have checked all the recorded faults, you then 'clear' the system. I think its blink code 1.1.1.1 for no more faults and then keep the button depressed after resetting the system and 4.4.4.4 will blink out telling you there are no recorded faults. To clear the system you either go through the diagnositics check recording the fault blink codes or, I believe, you can just turn the battery master switch off for 5-10 seconds...

:-)

J
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Adrian Jump
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Posted on Saturday, 15 December, 2012 - 08:10:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Thanks for the info James. I don't recall seeing a Diagnosis Button but will check when I next go over to it. Many thanks.

Adrian

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Adrian Jump
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Posted From: 92.25.131.25
Posted on Thursday, 20 December, 2012 - 10:10:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Hi James, I see no diagnostic button, just a multi pin diagnostic socket.

Regards, Adrian

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Omar M. Shams
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Post Number: 308
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Posted on Thursday, 20 December, 2012 - 14:04:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Dera Adrian,
have you been following James Seaman's activity? he has captured what you are trying to locate nicely in his thread.
http://www.rollsroyceforums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1931&highlight=
good luck finding the button. its there clearly shown in the fourth image in the sequence.
Omar
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Omar M. Shams
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Post Number: 310
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Posted on Monday, 24 December, 2012 - 04:31:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

So I went to my 1997 Continental R and started to look for the diagnostic button!! Could I find it???
My car is a USA spec car and has the OBD socket near the fuses - but no diagnostic button.
Does anyone know where it is on the Conti R?
Thanks
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Paul Yorke
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Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Monday, 24 December, 2012 - 05:59:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

hi Omar,

None on yours I'm afraid .

They only fitted them for the first couple of years.

Any ideas why ? £140 to have the codes read at the main stealers?
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Adrian Jump
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Posted on Friday, 28 December, 2012 - 09:47:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Thanks for the support everyone. All appears well still with the light cluster display albeit the 'check engine' light stays on as before the drama. Guess I will have to get one of these cheapo scanners just to put that light out.

Regards, Adrian

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