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Cliff Biggs
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Username: cliffy

Post Number: 150
Registered: 09-2021
Posted on Tuesday, 10 September, 2024 - 12:31:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Have been looking for 2 hrs on how to unplug toe board multiwire plugs to check for corrosion and have not found anything in any Workshop manual I have

Anyone know how to do it?

This is a 1986 Silver Spirit 14XXX left hand drive
Trying to open the toe board plug on the right side forward of the fuse panel
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Alan Dibley
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Username: alsdibley

Post Number: 408
Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Tuesday, 10 September, 2024 - 18:37:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

They are just very tight. I made a crude tool which helps to get good grip. There is no retainer, just pressure from eight tight spades.
When you put them back smother them with petroleum jelly (Vaseline).

If you find a corroded one there are several unused positions - with luck one may be on the same plug.

Alan D.
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Larry Kavanagh
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Username: shadow_11

Post Number: 856
Registered: 05-2016
Posted on Wednesday, 11 September, 2024 - 00:59:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

WD40 spray might help.
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Cliff Biggs
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Username: cliffy

Post Number: 151
Registered: 09-2021
Posted on Wednesday, 11 September, 2024 - 13:53:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Thanks guys!
Boy, swapping spade holes (if needed)looks like a real project having to get at both sides.
Again thanks!
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Alan Dibley
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Username: alsdibley

Post Number: 409
Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Wednesday, 11 September, 2024 - 18:20:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Cliff, you don't need to swap spades - they are all populated. It makes the "missing connector" safety system work.

Alan D.
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Alan Dibley
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Username: alsdibley

Post Number: 410
Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Thursday, 12 September, 2024 - 18:40:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Sorry, I think I just posted RUBBISH. There is a missing spade to match the blanked-off connector.

Alan D.
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Robert J. Sprauer
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Username: wraithman

Post Number: 856
Registered: 11-2017
Posted on Thursday, 12 September, 2024 - 21:12:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Wd-40 will not help you. Use a electrical contact cleaner, and once cleaned, use dielectric grease to keep the contacts from surface corrosion.
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Cliff Biggs
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Username: cliffy

Post Number: 152
Registered: 09-2021
Posted on Friday, 13 September, 2024 - 09:28:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Digging into it over the weekend
THANKS again for the help
I have to look again to see which side pulls off- inside the car or in the engine compartment.
This is all for an intermittent starter issue
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Brian Vogel
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Username: guyslp

Post Number: 3382
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Friday, 13 September, 2024 - 10:11:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

I have to disagree with Mr. Sprauer in regard to dielectric grease. Used as intended, it's applied on the outside of a given connection, somewhat like a sloppy insulator, whose purpose is to keep moisture out and prevent corrosion, and dielectric grease *IS* an insulator. It should never be applied to contacts because it will, if anything, increase resistance.

There are electrically conductive greases meant for coating the surfaces that touch one another in electrical connections that also serve the corrosion prevention function of dielectric grease, and that's all I use in connections like the toeboard connectors.

Here are two examples. I have been using the first one for years now, and have never once had to revisit a connection that was appropriately cleaned first, and this used as the "preservative" on the contacts afterward.

Sanchem NoOxID A-Special
Gardner-Bender Ox-Gard

Brian
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Alan Dibley
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Username: alsdibley

Post Number: 412
Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Saturday, 14 September, 2024 - 00:59:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

If you can not get the magic special greases I recommend "Vaseline" smothered all over. It makes it a bit messy but has lasted for the 22 years since I applied it when I first put the car on the road (1971 Bentley T).
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Cliff Biggs
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Username: cliffy

Post Number: 154
Registered: 09-2021
Posted on Monday, 16 September, 2024 - 06:40:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Got out to the blocks inside the bonnet and I was able to check those albeit with some difficulty as they are in there tight!

Still working an electrical issue in the starting circuit that seems to have no resolution in over a year. Its driving me up a wall and its only a simple 12V DC circuit!!

Vaseline? Might work for those in the Great White North but here in the SW of the USA in the deserts where we get 38-40C temps it turns to liquid
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Robert J. Sprauer
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Username: wraithman

Post Number: 857
Registered: 11-2017
Posted on Monday, 16 September, 2024 - 21:05:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Dielectric grease... Learn something

https://www.nyelubricants.com/myth-grease-interferes-with-conductivity
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Brian Vogel
Grand Master
Username: guyslp

Post Number: 3386
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Tuesday, 17 September, 2024 - 08:54:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Robert,

You would do well to learn yourself.

You implied that dielectric grease should be applied to the two parts of an electrical connection prior to their being put together, not after, and that is NOT best practice.

For those who want to use dielectric grease, the connection should be coated after the two parts have been connected. There are many connector styles where this is not at all practical.

Electrically conductive grease exists for a reason, and is neither exotic nor expensive.

Using the right tools for the right task is always a good idea, and conductive grease for electrical connections is, truly, best practice.

It makes more sense, but dielectric grease is absolutely better than nothing at all, as the act of sliding a connector together displaces enough at the contact surfaces to allow a connection yet protect otherwise.

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