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Patrick Lockyer.
Grand Master Username: pat_lockyer
Post Number: 2077 Registered: 9-2004
| Posted on Thursday, 14 March, 2019 - 04:56: |    |
Wow, some fool has recommended the use of compressed air instead of nitrogen to charge the spheres! |
   
David Gore
Moderator Username: david_gore
Post Number: 3175 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Thursday, 14 March, 2019 - 08:30: |    |
Where and when please - on this forum or elsewhere? |
   
Patrick Lockyer.
Grand Master Username: pat_lockyer
Post Number: 2080 Registered: 9-2004
| Posted on Thursday, 14 March, 2019 - 20:21: |    |
From a e-mail asking for clarification from a statement made on some sort of forum! |
   
Vladimir Ivanovich Kirillov
Grand Master Username: soviet
Post Number: 1322 Registered: 2-2013
| Posted on Thursday, 14 March, 2019 - 20:34: |    |
Actually, air would probably work for a short time, oh yes it is possible. I had a mad mate years ago who ran his Holden Ute's automatic transmission on water and it worked for a short time too and then....it stopped working. Hmmn I wonder why? |
   
David Gore
Moderator Username: david_gore
Post Number: 3181 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Friday, 15 March, 2019 - 07:05: |    |
Any DRY gas that does not degrade the diaphragm would probably work. As I see it, Nitrogen is inert, low-cost, widely available and completely dry with no adverse effects on the diaphragm other than the inevitable loss of pressure due to diffusion across the diaphragm into the brake fluid. In all cases, the rate of diffusion will be determined by the size of the gas molecules. . |
   
Paul Yorke
Grand Master Username: paul_yorke
Post Number: 2151 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Sunday, 22 December, 2019 - 08:06: |    |
The important thing about nitrogen is that it does not really change volume with temperature. It's also inert. |
   
Brian Vogel
Grand Master Username: guyslp
Post Number: 2988 Registered: 06-2009
| Posted on Sunday, 22 December, 2019 - 09:50: |    |
quote:Any DRY gas that does not degrade the diaphragm would probably work.
And, indeed, does. Air is 78% nitrogen, and sources for dessicated air are widespread, almost any store that sells paintball guns can supply it. I haven't used it myself, but logic dictates that it would work, and I seem to recall that at least one person I know has used it, but at the moment I cannot be certain. Given the thickness of the diaphragms, the rate of migration across one is likely far less than the slow (very slow, if one is lucky) leak out of the less than stellar OEM valve on the accumulators. Were I rebuilding any in the future I would definitely use the substitute valve from Flying Spares rather than the original ball bearing setup. Brian |
   
Trevor Hodgekinson
Experienced User Username: wm20
Post Number: 126 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Monday, 23 December, 2019 - 08:44: |    |
Please Paul. All gasses expand when heated unless they undergo a phase change PxV/T is constant for all gasses. |