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Ron Vale
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Username: silverfoxcc

Post Number: 2
Registered: 4-2012
Posted on Wednesday, 06 August, 2014 - 18:03:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Timeline
woke the old girl from her winter slumber, battery been on trickle charge fired up straight away.
Went through all the 'pre flight' checks and found both seats and mirros were non responsive completely dead
Went for a run and on return the following had changed

Drivers seat
All adjustments working ok but no memory facilty

Mirrors now adjusting

Pax seat
Only the recliner and front height adjustment working. all others not working
No memory

Looking a various sites it appears that this can be cured by a replacement battery. Which was obtained and fitted in the pax ECU (reasonably easy once i had figure everthing out!!)
Refitted ECU no change!!

Tried to remove the drivers side and noticed several differences
Pax has a spare 12 pin? socket coming from the ECU, cannot see any associated place to plug it on seat

Drivers seat
Has the 12 pin socket BUT is connected to something

Also there are three wires coming out of the ECU which appear to be earth wires as they terminate on the seat chassis



It has been noted that swapping the ECU should disclose any faults, but i am loath to do this because of the additional earths that are not on the Pax side.
Also i will also go along the route of attempting to check the manual working by installing a relay and amending the (8 pin round?) connections

The relays in the ECU appear to click ok when all the switches are operated as well as some clicking from the innards underneath the top roll
Are there any relays under there i need to look at?

Any thoughts appreciated

Ron
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Lluís Gimeno-Fabra
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Username: lluís

Post Number: 300
Registered: 8-2007
Posted on Wednesday, 06 August, 2014 - 21:36:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Did you reset by doing the 3443 code? Or was it 4334? In any case you dial that in the memory pad and the hell brakes loose with the seats going up and down. Afterwards it should work.
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Ron Vale
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Username: silverfoxcc

Post Number: 3
Registered: 4-2012
Posted on Thursday, 07 August, 2014 - 07:13:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Lluis

no further forward. but i have noticed the following

As the ECU is out of its case i found the following this evening

On the PCB there are 12 relays numbered RL1-RL12

operating the switches i noticed the following (pax side only not done drivers side yet)

operating the fore/aft switch relay 12 operates both fore and aft no movement of seat

operating the rear squab switch forwards relays 2 and 5 operate squab does move
operating the rear squab switch backwards relays 5 and 6 operate ditto

Operating front height switch up relays 3 and 6 work Front does go up/down
operating front height switch switch down relays 5 and 6 work ditto

operating the rear height switch up relay 12 only no movement at all up/down
operating the rear height switch down relay 12 only

The next thing to try is to 'manual operation not via the ECU. In the meantime has anyone else had and cured this problem? or have I a got an ECU that is FUBAR and will cost me plenty, or is there anyone that could repair it without me taking out a second mortgage?
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Paul Yorke
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Username: paul_yorke

Post Number: 1239
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Thursday, 07 August, 2014 - 10:41:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Hi Ron,

It sounds as though there is a fault with the ECU.

We get them all the time.

You can't manually test the seat unfortunately.

The extra plug is for mirror functions.

The earth leads are just two ways of getting earths. Later ones do not use the separate earth wires but are interchangeable.

Swap left to right and if all is then OK, send it for a repair or an exchange unit. We usually have a few in stock. EverythingRollsRoyce.com

Replace the battery in the good unit. These are a service item that most often get forgotten about.

Have a look at

https://www.facebook.com/pages/EverythingRollsRoyce/480142005358985?fref=ts

for some photos of battery damage.