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Dr Popper
New User Username: drpopper
Post Number: 6 Registered: 12-2008
| Posted on Saturday, 13 December, 2008 - 20:17: | |
I have been reading up and I thought it might be fun to do a little trivia Question. Forum Trivia works like this ...first person with the correct answer gets to ask the next question. I'll start it off with .... Q : How many RR models were released with Turbocharged engines ? |
Martin Cutler
Frequent User Username: martin_cutler
Post Number: 99 Registered: 7-2007
| Posted on Sunday, 14 December, 2008 - 19:58: | |
No Rolls Royces, they where only fitted to Bentleys. |
Dr Popper
New User Username: drpopper
Post Number: 7 Registered: 12-2008
| Posted on Sunday, 14 December, 2008 - 20:10: | |
BZZZZZZZ ...wrong No less then 5 RR models were turbos |
Martin Cutler
Frequent User Username: martin_cutler
Post Number: 100 Registered: 7-2007
| Posted on Sunday, 14 December, 2008 - 20:12: | |
We all know W.O. didn't approve of superchargers, how many model Rolls Royces where fitted with superchargers? |
Patrick Lockyer.
Grand Master Username: pat_lockyer
Post Number: 799 Registered: 9-2004
| Posted on Sunday, 14 December, 2008 - 21:01: | |
Thousands starting with the RR production Merlin engine in the Spitfire,1936. However if we are talking working model car Rolls Royces then I would say none. |
David Gore
Moderator Username: david_gore
Post Number: 853 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Monday, 15 December, 2008 - 08:38: | |
PEDANT'S CORNER Which "RR model" are we referring to: 1. Those made by Rolls-Royce Plc 2. Those made by Rolls-Royce Motor Cars Ltd Further, when we refer to "model Rolls-Royces" - does this refer to working scale models built by model engineers/hobbyists or full-size production models from a RR factory? |
StevenBrown
Experienced User Username: stevenbrown
Post Number: 33 Registered: 10-2008
| Posted on Monday, 15 December, 2008 - 09:36: | |
Mr. Gore brings up good questions on the rules. Spitfire, Hurricane, and P51 Mustangs Rolls Royce powered with superchargers. The RAF used bases in Canada to train pilots during WWII. After the war their base in Victoria, British Columbia, closed. In a hangar when reopened for civilian usage, they found a few Merlin's still crated. Along with at least one completed but never flown P51 trainer. So does this include engines built but never installed into a machine? I.e: cars, trucks, planes and even tanks, etcetera. Farmers in the U.S also used left over surplus engines to power farm equipment. Total production must be a lot! I've built plastic models of the above mentioned aircraft. Id love to find models kits of RR/B's and real Bentley's as in W.O's! Read an article on Mr. Goddard's twin turbo Bentley special (my personnel favorite car) quotes W.O's opinion on her, accordingly he said if Bentley stayed in business, development would evolve into turbo charging. |
Paul Pope
New User Username: drpopper
Post Number: 8 Registered: 12-2008
| Posted on Monday, 15 December, 2008 - 09:44: | |
Ok to Clarify the Question I'm talking about finished cars built at the Crewe factory badged Rolls Royce. |
Bill Coburn
Moderator Username: bill_coburn
Post Number: 1045 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Monday, 15 December, 2008 - 17:16: | |
I refuse to engage in these mental gynastics but I have always understood that only one chassis was supercharged and that by Amhurst Villiers and I think it was a Phantom III (cringes slightly to the left in preparation of salvo!! |
Bill Coburn
Moderator Username: bill_coburn
Post Number: 1046 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Monday, 15 December, 2008 - 17:19: | |
OK all you smart arses. There is one bolt on the SZ cars that has a Whitworth thread - where is it? |
Paul Pope
New User Username: drpopper
Post Number: 10 Registered: 12-2008
| Posted on Monday, 15 December, 2008 - 18:00: | |
Seeing as no one has come up with the answer I'll give in and give it. The Crewe Turbocharged RR models are as follows 1) 1994-5 RR Flying Spur 2) 1995 RR Corniche S 3) 1997-8 RR Silver Spur (LPT) 4) 1997-98 RR Park Ward (LPT) 5) 2000-2003 RR Corniche V (LPT) I can't help on the Whitworth thread ....
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Gus Brogden
Experienced User Username: gus
Post Number: 16 Registered: 2-2008
| Posted on Monday, 15 December, 2008 - 18:04: | |
It wouldnt happen to be on the starter, would it? (Message edited by gus on 15 December 2008) |
Bill Coburn
Moderator Username: bill_coburn
Post Number: 1048 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Monday, 15 December, 2008 - 18:55: | |
Ok so I read the question wrongly. Am I right about the Supercharging as distinct from turbocharging. And Gus No.... but you are dimensionally close. |
Gus Brogden
Experienced User Username: gus
Post Number: 17 Registered: 2-2008
| Posted on Monday, 15 December, 2008 - 19:06: | |
Ok Ok, sorry about that. I should have said starter solenoid. |
Martin Cutler
Prolific User Username: martin_cutler
Post Number: 101 Registered: 7-2007
| Posted on Monday, 15 December, 2008 - 20:32: | |
Hi Bill, http://www.rroc.org.au/library/31hc_sheila.html I saw this car many years ago in Sydney. The supercharger was missing, and the owner was looking into putting an Austin 7 motor on it to run the supercharger. Sorry, I wasn't thinking about Merlins, but very interesting info! As for whitworth threads, I have come across BSF, BSP, BA, and UNF/UNC, but whitworth? I will have to look harder! |
Bill Coburn
Moderator Username: bill_coburn
Post Number: 1049 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Monday, 15 December, 2008 - 23:22: | |
no Gus and thanks Martin. I remember when the late Dick Donnely owned it! |
David Turner
Experienced User Username: silver_spur
Post Number: 15 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, 16 December, 2008 - 06:08: | |
two whitworth bolts , one on each battery terminal |
Bill Coburn
Moderator Username: bill_coburn
Post Number: 1050 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, 16 December, 2008 - 08:20: | |
David / You are right even if they were not counted. Can't think how to get out of that one. Needless to say I have not had every bolt out of our cars but three people have told me this little bit of useless knowledge. The bolt I refer to is one that screws into the base of the transmission housing to hold the gearbox actuator bracket in place. |
StevenBrown
Experienced User Username: stevenbrown
Post Number: 36 Registered: 10-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, 16 December, 2008 - 09:52: | |
Mr. Cutler, your link gave me a bright dream idea for a future RR/B project........ Discovered this simular idea already applied in both Seattle and Australia. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_Fof0CIen0&feature=related But I'd install the engine in something like this instead: http://www.portcarlingboats.com/crackerbox%20notes_files/wooden%20boat.jpg |
Gus Brogden
Experienced User Username: gus
Post Number: 18 Registered: 2-2008
| Posted on Tuesday, 16 December, 2008 - 12:55: | |
Hmmmm. I seem to have thought there was a whitworth on the Lucas starter of my Jag XJS. I thought I could win by guessing. I still should get an "E" for effort. |
David Turner
Experienced User Username: silver_spur
Post Number: 16 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, 16 December, 2008 - 13:33: | |
Bill i would not of thought any thread in the transmission would be anything but UNF/UNC with the transmission having come from the USA. I would definately give Gus his E for effort as he may well have another there on the starter. Dave |
Bill Coburn
Moderator Username: bill_coburn
Post Number: 1052 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, 16 December, 2008 - 14:55: | |
OK you lot the judge (that's me) his decision is final! The only reason I knew this is that a mate went into a big Sydney RR place and during a look over the bolt was known to be missing. Well put one in he asked? Haven't got one its a funny thread. Later when I got the car I called my wrecker man and he told me the story and sent me one! |
David Turner
Experienced User Username: silver_spur
Post Number: 18 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, 17 December, 2008 - 02:37: | |
Another trivia question , What part of the car was known by the name "merlin" |
David Turner
Experienced User Username: silver_spur
Post Number: 19 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Saturday, 20 December, 2008 - 01:32: | |
????? no one wants a go at the merlin question???? |
Craig Knight
Experienced User Username: grum_ck
Post Number: 12 Registered: 9-2007
| Posted on Saturday, 20 December, 2008 - 01:44: | |
Everybody is busy for Christmas? I’ll go with the obvious answer of the engine – it would be true in at least a couple of ‘special’ cases anyway. |
Richard Treacy
Grand Master Username: richard_treacy
Post Number: 1535 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Saturday, 20 December, 2008 - 07:35: | |
Oh dear. Next we'll start on Qantas RB211 turbohairdryers and Dennis B81 firelighters. |
Brian Crump
Experienced User Username: brian_crump
Post Number: 33 Registered: 2-2007
| Posted on Saturday, 20 December, 2008 - 12:32: | |
I'll pass on the Merlin; I just don't know and sorry, Richard, I don't fly QANTAS... However, in the Spirit of Christmas, and because I have failed to find the answer anywhere else, I will award a nice bottle of bubbly to the first person who can answer; what is Savigear? If Bill Coburn happens to come up with the answer then I insist I will help him drink his awarded bottle... Regards, Brian Crump |
Martin Cutler
Prolific User Username: martin_cutler
Post Number: 102 Registered: 7-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, 23 December, 2008 - 19:25: | |
Hi Brian, Stab in the dark here, but your PII goes into first gear from standstill very easily, no crunching, which for a gearbox that doesn't have synchro on first, is unusual. Admittedly I have only put it into firsat gear when the gearbox is cold, so the oil hasn't had a chance to warm up and thin out. When I move other PII's into first gear, Bill Hall's and John Matheson's, they both need to be put into a gear with synchro first, and then into first, to avoid crunching. John's has synchro on 3rd and 4th, Bill's has synchro on 2nd. Maybe it has somthing to do with a sort of brake on the 1st gear, like the clutch brake on the WO Bentleys. Might be worth while lifting the floorboards and investigating? Bill's PII is quiet when selecting reverse, so long as you have the revs low and are patient, whilst John's won't go into reverse quietly, no matter how long you wait, you have to select 3rd, then reverse for a quiet change. Your 'box is very quiet and easy to select reverse. Maybe it is a Continental thing? I thought the Continental only referred to the length of the chassis, but your vacuum tank is larger than on standard PII's, so maybe something extra on the gearbox as well. Cheers Marty |
Anton De Bloch Unregistered guest Posted From: 79.84.208.95
| Posted on Monday, 22 December, 2008 - 20:50: | |
4500 replies on google so far for Savigear. You will have to define a related domain of application! Both my Silver Spirits are Masons Black, is there an equivalent colour in Australia ? Just like to say happy christmas to all of you and a thank you for the free access to your forums that permits me to keep the carrs running reasonably well, as I am not a mechanic; Happy new year as well
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